Actually, the lockout on debates is why I sent this message to Ralph Nader.

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I am a registered Republican.  I'm also a former business owner and work for
a company that Ralph Nader generally targets as being 'anti-consumer' ...

With that understanding, I made my decision for election day.  It has been a
very difficult decision.  I've been one of the undecided ones.

Come November, Ralph Nader has my vote.

The lockout on the debates was the final straw.  A very well respected
President of the United States said that a two party political system would
destroy our Republic and the democracy we hold so dear to our hearts.

This lockout crushed open debate, a foundation and cornerstone of our
Republic.  This action crushed our First Amendment Rights.

In fact, our liberties are being stripped - one by one - day by day -
decision by decision.  It's haunting that our legacy to our children will be
our unwillingness to keep the United States free from Government tyranny.  A
tyranny subject to the whims of money, misguided do-gooders, and control
freaks.

We don't all have to agree on issues.  We don't even have to like each
other.  The key is to discuss the issues and to make decisions based on the
good of our society, our family, our selves, and our country.

The "leaders" of the two "major" parties made a strategic error by locking
you out of the debates.

It would be an interesting poll to see how many of us on the edge of voting
one way or another - just got knocked off the fence.

Good luck.



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul R
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT [newbie] Microsoft and George W. Bush


You don't have to pick a random name, Michael.  We do have a viable
alternative to throwing our vote away on corporate Republicrat like
Bush/Gore!  His name's Ralph Nader.  And the most important thing if you
want him to win as letting him enter the debates.  I've been trying to
hold myself back from this topic, but it seems to be so related to the
open-source/free-software (as in software freedom) movement that I gotta
say this.  Right now both parties are working together to keep Nader and
Buchanan out of the debates.  That's primarily because of what happened
with Perot when he was in the elections.  But also our friend from
Minessota, Jesse Ventura, had about the same poll rating as Nader does
now (about 8%) before the debates,a nd he won by a landslide
afterwards.  Right now a lot of people (including a lot of Bush and Gore
supporters) are working to get Nader included in the debates because
they see it as a basic freedom of speech, freedom to hear another voice
issue.  Plus, he'll force Bush/Gore to answer some questions they don't
want to deal with.

Whew.  Had to get that out!  :)  Thanks for lettin' me let loose.  If
you wanna learn more about it some goods sites are:

www.votenader.org
and my favorite radio program http://www.democracynow.org/

Sorry for the rant, but it had to be said.
Love all'yall.

-Paul R
Michael wrote:
>
> I'd rather pick a random name from the phone book rather than vote for
> either Bush or Gore. I'll probably end up picking a name from the EFF or
> something like that. It's better to choose someone I'd really want knowing
> my canidate has no chance of winning than to throw my vote in behind
> someone I wouldn't trust to run my Quake server and become just another
> zombie. Does anyone have any favorites for who we should vote for as the
> Geek platform? If you wanted to get serious you might pick something like
> Richard Stallman and Eric Raymond (I probably killed their names but oh
> well.. I misspell my own name too) but I can't imagine the two of them
> working together if they could avoid it. So this election day vote for the
> losser. :)
>
> *^*^*^*
> Was it a dream where you see yourself standing in sort of sungod robes
>  on a pyramid with a thousand naked women screaming and throwing little
> pickles at you? -- Real Genius
>
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
>
> > "F. E. Schaper" wrote:
> >
> > > I'll leave the Presidential debate open for others to discuss as I
think
> > > that is too far off topic for this list, but I will ask you this:
> > > Do you want a President who, up until this point is most famous for
> > > approving the execution of 2 women, and for picking his nose on
national
> > > television?
> > >
> > > I may have to move to Canada next year.
> >
> > I agree that this is better left somewhere else...but I can't help
it...I'll
> > never vote for a potential president whose agenda includes destroying
the 2nd
> > amendment in order to achieve the (dubious) honor of removing firearms
from
> > Americans!
> >
> > I say again...never.
> >
> > --
> >
> >
/\
> >
Dark><Lord
> >
\/
> >

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