Tom Brinkman wrote:
>
> On Saturday 23 June 2001 11:17 am, Romanator wrote:
> > You also hit the nail. Our market is flooded with so much substandard
> > ICs and boards. I have caught many errors or crashes caused by
> > hardware of which I thought was caused by software. I ended up
> > replacing a board or chip and the crash disapeared. Is there a "Wall
> > Of Shame web page to post vendors/retailers and hardware that should
> > be avoided for users?
> >
> > Roman
>
> Well, sort'a kind'a, but in reverse. Go to any of the 'magazine'
> review sites that push/recommend/advertise Windoze hardware ... like
> Cnet, ZDnet, etc. That's usually a strong indication of what NOT to buy
> and avoid ;> Good 'Wall of Shame' pages.
>
> Also, if you need to d/l closed source, binary only drivers to make
> somethin fully functional, or work at all on Linux, that's a fair
> indicator it's "use at your own risk, avoid if you possibly can"
> hardware. So those manufacturers webpages and ftp sites make good
> 'Wall of Shame' pages.
> Jeezzzz, I bet I'm p!$$in off a bunch of GeForce owners ;~>
>
> AND then there's also many ready made manufacturers that have
> websites, like Dell, Gateway, Compaq, etc. ..... that make it easy to
> figure out what complete systems to shun and avoid. These are the best
> 'Wall of Shame' pages.
> Now I know I've p!$$ed off a bunch of y'all ;>>
>
> 'Course in all my pontificating, I'd be remiss if I didn't point out
> that the responsibility for suitable hardware to run Linux on is solely
> the Linux users. Hopefully they make themselves aware of win-hardare
> and closed source driver issues before they even think about installing
> Linux for the first time. So there could be a 'Wall of Shame' page for
> some Linux users too. 'Course many of them wouldn't know, or accept if
> they did, that they're part of the win-hardware, Wintel problem.
> I'd nominate anyone who posts to this list "but it works in Windows"....
>
> as always, Y'alls MMV ;> Wall of Shame © Romanator ;)
> --
> Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
>
> >
> > Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > > I agree with all you say Sridhar, but I believe you didn't go
> > > nearly far enough. Intel, Windoze, and the big readymade vendors
> > > like Dell, love to push Wintel (eg, win motherboards, winmodems,
> > > winprinters, win video, win sound, win monitors, etc) on computer
> > > illiterate users. Neither Linux nor most of it's more savvy users
> > > will or can tolerate this substandard corner-cutting junk and the
> > > closed source/binary only drivers it requires to function.
> <snip>
I'm sure there are going to be a number of angry posts as a follow up.
Roman
Registered Linux User #179293
