I think we're heading down the wrong path.  I've checked another place in KDE 
and there aren't ANY drivers installed for the Soundblaster!  HardDrake sees 
it incorrectly and won't load the drivers.  I tried manually.  Thanks for 
your patience.

Here are the answers to your questions below.  Maybe something will come up.

On Sunday 12 August 2001  9:22, etharp wrote:
> > Yes, I believe it is in the "shared" slot with the PCI.
>
> but the real question I _meant_ to ask was that there was nothing in the
> other shared slot.

No, there isn't physical room to put a card in each slot.

>
> > > "open KDE Control Center=>Sound=>Sound Server and made the default the
> > > sound driver (neither ALSA nor autodetect) then logged out an
> > > rebooted".
>
> Ok, if it says "neither ALSA nor autodetect" and there is one other choice,
> why would you choose autodetect, since that was part of "neither"? have you
> tried OSS? damn that sounded a little to much like the father in me, I do
> not mean to sound so gruff. Excuse me please.

No problem.  I didn't understand that the sound driver and "Sound I/O Method" 
were the same, since in "KDE System Control" under the "Properties of 
Creative SB16 PnP Audio" there is no driver installed.  I thought I was in 
the wrong screen.
>
> > This part confused me.  I don't have "default sound driver" as an option
> > here.  "Sound I/O Method" is currently set to autodetect.  My only
> > choices are "autodetect", "Open sound system", and "No audio
> > input/output".  I have no other choices.
> >
> > > Might you have some servers or mail checking going on in the forground
> > > that may be using all the CPU resources for a few seconds? what version
> > > of Mandrake are you running?
>
> just because you did not start them, does not mean you do not have servers
> running. In Mandrake, servers are running when you start up, by default, as
> long as you installed them when you installed the OS and have not made sure
> they do not start at boot and are turned off as you work.

OK.  On this, I have to plead ignorance.  What should I be looking for here?  
To my knowledge I don't have any mail servers running.  I am running Samba.  
Everything else seems to run fine.
>
> > I'm running Mandrake 8.0 with the 2.4.3-20mdk kernel.  I've tried this
> > nothing running at all after a fresh boot.
> >
> >
> > I've been poking around some more.  Only part of the soundcard is
> > recognized. The multimedia controller is all that is working.  The other
> > three parts (game controller, midi, and something else) are "reserved"
> > but not operational.  They're listed under the "unknown device class" in
> > the KDE System control center.  The part that is shown as working has NO
> > DRIVER INSTALLED.
> >
> >
> > Thanks for all of your help.
> >
> > > On Thursday 09 August 2001 23:24, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> > > > Disabling ASLA on boot had no effect...still no sound.  MP3's won't
> > > > run. Any player I try just sits there.  I push play it sits there.
> > > > Something, maybe unrelated to the sound system itself has got in the
> > > > way??  CD's play from the CD player ok.  I'll keep playing with this,
> > > > but if anyone has any more good ideas....Thanks
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday 08 August 2001 11:04, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> > > > > To see if I had Kmix, I went to the menus of installed programs.  I
> > > > > also checked in the Package Manager, didn't find Kmix at all there.
> > > > > I don't know any other way (remember I'm a total newbie to Linux).
> > > > >
> > > > > I can get CD's to play, just not MP3's.  I've not tried any other
> > > > > audio format.
> > > > > I'll try what you said,  ALSA was checked to start, but not
> > > > > running. Right now I'm burning a CD and don't want to kill that to
> > > > > reboot.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks for your help...now to why my printer has gotten really
> > > > > slow...for another post...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tuesday 07 August 2001  5:31, etharp wrote:
> > > > > > let me get this straight, you ARE using Mandrake 8.0. you do not
> > > > > > think you have Kmix on your system. how did you check to see if
> > > > > > kmix was installed? do you have the available hard drive space to
> > > > > > install it? do not install more sound drivers (as far I
> > > > > > rememrber, alsa and OSS conflict, and you may already have some
> > > > > > conflicting sound problems). in fact, in this case, the answer
> > > > > > may be as likely to uninstall a sound service as to install one.
> > > > > > this is a partial quote from a report by someone whom knows ALOT
> > > > > > more about this stuff than I do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  "Mandrake Control Center => System => Services and unchecked
> > > > > > "at boot" for alsa once I noticed that it was checked at boot and
> > > > > > wasn't running anyway.  Then I opened KDE Control
> > > > > > Center=>Sound=>Sound Server and made the default the sound driver
> > > > > > (neither ALSA not autodetect) then logged out an rebooted.  Sound
> > > > > > was afterwards fine."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Monday 06 August 2001 23:17, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> > > > > > > Ok, I made sure that PNP was turned off in BIOS (already was
> > > > > > > off).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I tried to find Kmix, don't have it.  I did get CD Player to
> > > > > > > work. But I cannot get XMMS to work.  It still scrolls the MP3
> > > > > > > title and sits there. It (xmms) freezes whenever I try to stop
> > > > > > > it.  In fact, just about any of the sound applications freeze
> > > > > > > when I try to exit them. None (but CD Player) work.  Could
> > > > > > > there be a setting somewhere that has been accidentally
> > > > > > > switched, effectively killing my card?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm ready to try ALSA, but after spending several long nights
> > > > > > > with WINE (and then disappointed at the results) several more
> > > > > > > nights with SANE (didn't get that to work right and gave up, at
> > > > > > > least for now) and now ALSA, I want something to go easy.  The
> > > > > > > mini-howto on ALSA is 29 pages and its for kernel 2.2, not the
> > > > > > > 2.4.3 that comes with Mandrake 8.0. I'm not sure I want to
> > > > > > > tackle that now.  Please help a newbie in distress.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sunday 05 August 2001  5:21, etharp wrote:
> > > > > > > > run Kmix and make sure the levels are respectable to hear
> > > > > > > > (half way) and that in BIOS,  plug and pray aware OS is set
> > > > > > > > to OFF.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sunday 05 August 2001 14:05, Linus Drouhard wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I have an old Soundblaster 16 that I cannot get to work.  I
> > > > > > > > > ran sndconfig and it would play the sample sounds in the
> > > > > > > > > configuration routine.  I think that the first test was the
> > > > > > > > > word "Hello" but I got a "Hel" sounded like it cutoff. The
> > > > > > > > > midi track played fine.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anyway, I tried configuring it through Harddrake, couldn't
> > > > > > > > > fine isapnp.config, or something like that.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I tried using it anyway.  CD-player spins away, but no
> > > > > > > > > sound. Running an MP3 through XMMS (and other MP3 players)
> > > > > > > > > doesn't work either.  The title scrolls by, but the song
> > > > > > > > > won't play. If I slide the progress bar, I get snippets of
> > > > > > > > > sound, 1/2 second or so long.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Any help would be appreciated in setting this "classic"
> > > > > > > > > soundcard up.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Linus
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ASUS P5A
> > > > > > > > > AMD K6-II 400 @420
> > > > > > > > > 128 MB Ram
> > > > > > > > > Nvidia TNT2 M64 with 32MB
> > > > > > > > > Realtek NIC

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