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[31] Doh - it's not big but massive
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Dunfermline have signed midfielder Gary Mason from Manchester City on a free transfer.
Pars manager Jimmy Calderwood said of Mason: "He's had experience of a big, big club
and little Barry Nicholson was also at a big, big club, an even bigger one. It's never
easy leaving a big club but he wasn't getting a game and he wanted to play football.
Barry hasn't missed a game for us and has gained a lot of experience so hopefully Gary
will do the same."
Surely he must have tongue firmly in cheek with his 'big club' mentions in one
sentence alone - but got it mixed up. Big...massive...easy mistake to make!
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[30] More FIFA player award handbags
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Luis Figo has gone into one over Zidane's win at the FIFA do.
"Perhaps it should be renamed 'best player in the European Championship. I don't
understand it because the tournament only lasted a month, and besides, the European
Championship was won by 22 players - not just one man. I would have liked to have won
this award and to have dedicated it to all of my companions and the supporters of
Barcelona, Real Madrid and the national team - especially to all of the Portuguese who
would have been proud if I had been first in the vote. I would have voted for Figo. I
don't feel superior or inferior to others, but if I don't defend myself, what am I
going to do?"
When he says he'd have voted for Figo - isn't that saying he'd - er - vote for
himself. Well who else?
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[29] Strachan on his Utd days
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
>From the Indy
On Fergie
"He is the best sports psychologist in the world. He tests people when they are
younger, and weeds out the weak-minded. You can be technically and physically OK, but
if you're weak-minded you go. That's his philosophy. At Aberdeen he made my life a
misery on many occasions, and I had to get over that...
He remembers the day Fergie became his boss again after Fatko got the sack
"Aye. The fifth of November, 1986. I knew he'd be up for it, because he'd already told
me that he would only leave Aberdeen for Barcelona or Man Utd. So I was hoping the
Barcelona coach would get the sack. I didnae want the same manager again. I wanted to
be motivated by new people. But at the same time I was one of the very few who
publicly backed Fergie when things weren't going right in those first few years. I
said 'give him more time, he'll get it done.' People forget that.
"I made sure I didnae socialise with Robbo. I couldnae handle it. I did have a session
with him once." Where was that? "I cannae remember. But I loved their company, they
were great lads. I used to drive home from training along the M56, and there was a
left turn for Wilmslow, where I lived, and a right turn for Hale, where they lived. I
used to say that it was left for under three pints a night, and right for more than
10."
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[28] UEFA - we must change formats
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Gerhard Aigner, director general of European football's governing body Uefa, said: "We
aren't going to immediately reform the Champions League or the Uefa Cup but must
consider it at some time. I'm convinced the Champions League is too long and the
fixture list is saturated. We don't want people to get bored and it's important the
competitions are interesting."
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[27] More massive news
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
>From our RN columnist Farrell, Born & Bred
"They can't get to Europe cos of localised floods..."
"They have games called off 'cos they don't like the rain..."
Cos City are a Massive Club
Sure you've probably had a few like this already but could you Imagine the amount of
stick we'd get if it happened at Old Trafford? Best story I've heard is a group of
City fans tore up there stubbs to make confetti to throw in the air - did so and now
have to pay again to watch the match when it's replayed!!! But how can they tear up
their stubs? Why don't they need them for future match ticket Applications? Massive"
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[26] Reserve match changed
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Manchester United Reserves home game against Everton has been postponed due to a, wait
for it, waterlogged pitch. The original game for Thursday 14 December at Gigg Lane,
has been put back to 11 January 2001, the next reserve match in fact.
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[25] Fergie - Ole will start on Sunday
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Pretty obvious story really with Yorke suspended and Cole out injured.
Fergie: "Ole Gunnar will play on Sunday and it will do him good. He'll be looking
forward to this. The goal he scored at Charlton was marvellous. I don't think any
other striker in the country would have scored that. His anticipation was fantastic.
He is a terrific player. Ole has been unlucky this year and he'll have been a bit
frustrated but he'll figure a lot now.
The success of Teddy Sheringham has been a great period for him but it has made it
very difficult for the other strikers. However, Ole's a good professional and he gets
on with it. He's improving as a player and we expect him to get better. He'll get his
chance now and I think he'll do well over the next few weeks
He has been doing very well recently and I was going to pick him regularly last month.
Then he got an ankle injury against Middlesbrough. He was out for a couple of weeks
but he's back now and looking good."
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[24] Like a scene from The Prisoner
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
>From the official site:
"Chocolate giants Yorkie will sponsor the match ball on Sunday, and to celebrate we've
got a season's worth of the delicious snack to give away. That's 240 bars! They're
bringing four inflatable "Yorkie Sky Guys" with them, similar to those seen at Euro
2000, who will reach for the sky every United goal scored against Liverpool"
So we'll have those fucking irritating eye-sores in front of us - like Irwin's
testimonial - where a bloke has to get up and wiggle his hands about to control this
awful puppets. The luvvies have taken over the place!
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[23] You read it here first
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Daily Star reports we'll have to wait until the summer for Auzerre's Mexes after we
had a bid of £6 million turned down. We first told you this story, well, months ago!
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[22] United help out city
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Before the game last night city called Utd ground staff for ground sheets from Old
Trafford. "We rang Keith Kent, United's head groundsman because we knew they had a
full set of sheeting, to see if we could borrow it" said City's chief operating
officer, Chris
Bird. "United responded very promptly and Keith sent over the sheeting and some of his
ground staff as well."
Only to try and quicken up the speed with which we could sing 25 years!
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[21] Football club charges players...
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
for bread.
This will give Our Martin and Cuddly Peter ideas...
We're waiting for Martin to try this one on Keano
"Millwall FC players have been made to pay 50p each for their breakfast toast after
the club's chairman filmed a television documentary. Theo Paphitis, who is worth an
estimated £30 million, says he is shocked that his highly paid footballers felt they
should not have to pay.
"Our payroll is about £2.5 million a year. That's a lot of money. If they can't
afford 50p I suggest they go to another club. Normal people pay for their food so why
not high earning players? Anyway, they should be eating at home. I think we spoil
them."
The documentary Back to the Floor will be screened on BBC2 tonight.
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[20] Massive crowd man
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
All that talk of ending the 24 year wait and the League Cup will be the one for city -
and how many turn out for the Ipswich game last night - just 23,260. Massive club.
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[19] Ideal unofficial Xmas presents
---------------------------------
Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
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[18] Ref change
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Injured Graham Barber has been replaced by Mike Riley to ref Sunday's game against the
Scousers.
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[17] Come back Kieth Fane!
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
And we were happy to get rid of Fane - and now Keegan - but look at
what we could have won:
"A physics professor brings a sense of gravity to American football
matches when he broadcasts his lectures on a giant video screen to
77,000 fans. The University of Nebraska lecturer gets the undivided attention of the
normally rowdy class when his mini-lectures are aired in between set plays at the
Nebraska Cornhuskers' Memorial Stadium in Lincoln.
And Professor Tim Gay maximises the impact of his lessons by focussing on the physics
of football, from the dynamics of tackling to how much energy is used in kicking the
ball. Professor Gay, who used to play for the California Institute of Technology,
leapt at the chance to have his lessons shown at the stadium, and the cheering crowds
now suddenly descend into silence for the mini-lectures, the Nando Times reports.
"That's one of the few times the crowd goes silent," said Cornhuskers fan Dick Rimel,
who has attended almost every home game since the 1960s.
Professor Gay says: "There's a fine line between cheerleading and
physics instruction. What I'm trying to do is let people know that physics is fun.
Physics underlies everything we do. But when a tackler fails to bring down an
opposing ball-carrier, I don't yell out, 'You didn't use Newton's Third Law!'"
Keith you were right - there are worse out there.
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[16] Literary classic
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
GQ have signed up Michael Owen as a celebrity guest editor for a coming issue.
Probably with all the excitement of a wet weekend in Southport.
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[15] These celebrity fans are just so loyal
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
from Soccernet
"Chelsea fans thought they spotted another Italian superstar coming to the Bridge.
Alas, EastEnders star Beppe di Marco, who had to flee autograph hunters outside the
East Stand at a recent game, was only there as a fan."
And we were told he was a Red, he's certainly been spotted at OT - and at Wimbledon
away. Twat. Who the fuck do you support?
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[14] Fabien speaks
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
"The other good news is that after a delay with the work being done to my house, I
will finally be living there in ten days. I must say, I've had enough of hotel! A
house, a place where I can be completely at home, I've waited for four months for
this. If only so I can have my family and friends over to visit, like my sister who's
coming to live near here"
The french colony of Manchester starts to grow...great!
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[13] Scousers get tough UEFA Cup draw
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
The full draw:
FC Porto (Por) v Nantes (Fra)
AEK Athens (Gre) v Barcelona (Esp)
VfB Stuttgart (Ger) v Celta Vigo (Esp)
Liverpool (Eng) v AS Roma (Ita)
Alaves (Esp) v Inter Milan (Ita)
PSV Eindhoven (Hol) v Parma (Ita)
Slavia Prague (Cze) v Kaiserslautern (Ger)
Rayo Vallencano (Esp) v Bordeaux (Fra)
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[12] Arse fans back move from Highbury
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
"Arsenal's plans for a new stadium received a major boost with news that the majority
of the clubs supporters backed plans for a move away from Highbury. The club
announced plans for a new 60,000 capacity stadium at Ashburton Grove in November and
will be hoping for a move to the new ground by 2004. Arsenal issued comment cards as
part of its public consultation over the issue and over 80 per cent of the 933 cards
received have been in favour of the move.
"We are extremely encouraged by the very positive responses we have
had," enthused Arsenal director Ken Friar. "Many of which are from
local residents who live adjacent to the three sites.
"We are still listening to the views and comments of local residents
and we will do all we can to ensure that the proposals provide a wide
range of benefits for the local community."
Now where's that web site opposing the move?
An wasn't it them who coined the phrase 50,000 muppets - and now they
sell out their history to compete on capacity terms - at any price...
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[11] More on the pre-season tour
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Fresh from our earlier story we have the following information - showing that perhaps
there is hope this time on the tour....or maybe not!
"Members from the official United supporters club in Singapore will be invited to
watch the team's training session. Special event merchandise and commemorative
souvenirs will also be produced for the tour. There will be three ticket prices for
the Singapore leg - S$60, 90 and 110, prices are comparable to what United fans pay
to watch the team play at home at Old Trafford.
In addition, tour organiser ProEvents has set aside five percent of all tickets for
students who are 16 years or younger, priced at an affordable S$10 each. And,
ProEvents plans to provide 100 free tickets to the handicapped, plus another 100
tickets for their assistants. More than 54,200 fans are expected to attend the
once-in-a-lifetime match.
Peter Kenyon said, "We are delighted and looking forward to playing in Singapore next
year in July. With the help of our trusted tour organiser, ProEvents, this vision has
become a reality. For the fans, the tour is a great opportunity to see their
favourite players through a range of exciting activities in addition to the game.
This continues to build on Manchester United's plan to bring our fans closer to the
team....fans can expect the squad to not only be
here, but to train and play at their highest level in preparation for
the new season".
ProEvents' Managing Director for Singapore John Merritt said, "Singapore has huge
potential as a thriving soccer destination for top international teams. The
tremendous fan enthusiasm, strong interest from businesses to leverage its marketing
and sponsorship potential, and outstanding support from the FAS (Football Association
of Singapore), the STB (Singapore Tourism Board) and the National Stadium - all bode
well for more teams like Man U to make Singapore a first choice. For ProEvents,
bringing in Man U was the natural first project for our newly established Singapore
operations and an outstanding example of the kind of top class international teams
and entertainment we will bring to Singapore. The club is unquestionably the most
famous in the world, and one with which we have a long-standing working
relationship. More importantly, the visit will benefit not only fans and sponsors,
but the nation too. Over the long term, ProEvents' hope is that our plans will!
help contribute to raising the standard of soccer here, and to supporting
Singapore's 2010 World Cup Goal"
Man U! How dare they call us that.
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[10] RED NEWS exclusive - Scousers ARE Romanian
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by redend:
Now we might be accused of a fixation with bearded Romanian women stories - but - lets
be honest here - who can hold there hands up (both of them) and say they aren't? Oh -
just us then?
But it is our duty to report the truth to you - no matter how disgusting. And here -
just as we suspected all along - we finally have conclusive proof - from reports
through the Press Association - that illegal immigrant Scousers have invaded Romania
(and God only knows where else - is it too late?).
PA:
Grave robbers make escape bid by horse and cart:
Police in Romania have captured two men trying to escape by horse and cart after
stealing twenty metal crosses from a local cemetery.
The men were arrested as they headed to a scrap metal merchants in Serbanesti, County
Oilt.
(Only Norman Whiteside can save the world)
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[9] Pre-season ticket lottery?
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Undoubtedly an intrepid but small number of Reds will make the long trip for the Far
East pre-season tour - we just hope Utd are better organised about letting those Reds
know what the score is with details of the trip (games, kick-offs) than last time when
you couldn't - only at Utd - get tickets from the club over here and instead had to
try all manner of avenues to get them from the host countries. That was mainly due to
the hard work of Utd fans based in the host countries - hopefully things have changed
but a well known Red in Hong Kong has sent us an e.mail (thanks) saying: "I would
advise any reds to request tickets (from Utd) if they fancy a trip to Asia as the
games will be sold out and tickets will change hands at ridiculous prices."
Hopefully Utd this time will do the right thing and sort out travelling Reds and host
branches.
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[8] Remember those Bradford applications
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Reminder - Bradford away is due in Thursday 14th December
"Bradford City vs Manchester United, Valley Parade, Saturday 13th January, kick off
3pm.
We have received an allocation of approximately 3700 tickets priced £27 adults £20
under 16's/over 65's. Postal application are now
being accepted from Season Ticket Holders on production of voucher 32 (duly
completed), letter of application, open cheque (made payable to MUFC), sae and the
following 4 match vouchers properly affixed to this seasons token sheet: 31 (RSC
Anderlecht) 32 (PSV Eindhoven) 33 (Dynamo Kiev) 34 (Panthathinaikos).
Private Box/Exec Suite and Club Class Members can apply by post in the
usual manner quoting their facilities held.
All applications need to be received in the Ticket Office no
later than 5 p.m. on Thursday 14th December. As we anticipate being oversubscribed a
postal ballot will be held to determine the successful applicants."
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[7] SPS fever spreads?
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
"Christmas revellers beware - archaic pub laws mean that three or more people
enjoying a singalong could be prosecuted and fined for breaking the law. Junior Home
Office minister Lord Bassam of Brighton is unhappy that, under a section of the 1964
licensing act, pubs need an entertainment licence where 'entertainment' is provided
by three or more people.
He said: "Whether members of the public singing on licensed premises
count as performers would be a matter for the licensing authority to
decide." He said the government hoped to scrap the provision as part of its general
reform of entertainment laws, reports The Independent.
"We clearly need more sensible, modernised laws in this field," he
said. The Bishop of Oxford said: "It seems very strange that, if you have a couple of
pianists, or a pianist and a singer in a pub, and a member of the audience gets up to
sing along, they are actually liable to prosecution with quite heavy fines."
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[6] We're singing in the rain
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Referee Graham Poll on his decision to abandon city's Worthington Cup game against
Ipswich after 21 minutes, prompting jeers from the blues.
Poll said: "It was tough decision to make but at 7.30 the pitch was playable. I was
happy to give it a try. I wanted to give it 15 minutes but in fact we played just over
20. The players from both sides were unhappy and telling me so. The ball was sticking
and I was concerned for their safety. Safety has to be our number one priority and I
was concerned there was still a lot of surface water. The Cup is an important
competition with qualification for Europe at stake and I would have hated it if the
game had been decided on a freak goal."
And Joe Royle said: "It would be very easy to condemn the referee but I am not going
to argue. It was a hard decision to make and I have every sympathy with the referee."
Ipswich's George Burley said: "The conditions were impossible and dangerous. "I have
every sympathy for our fans, who have made a long journey, but safety of the players
has to come first."
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[5] Funny Mexes story
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Before going to Auxerre to watch Mexès himself around six months ago, Sir Alex called
Auxerre coach and personal friend Guy Roux to inform him he was coming.
Roux replied to him :" If you come to visit the vineyard of Chablis (a small city near
Auxerre famous for his with wine), no problem I will come with you. But if you want
to watch Mexès, you will have to walk from the airport to the stadium...and it's a
long way!"
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[4] Nakata not joining Utd - u.turn no.3827
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
Roma's out-of-favour Japanese star Hidetoshi Nakata will not be joining United
according to the player's management company.
A spokesman for Nakata - twice Asian player of the year - said: "Nakata is happy at
Rome and with the results of the team."
A slight u-turn from the players' comments yesterday that..."Rome is a wonderful
place, but it is suffocating me. I have no privacy and I need a change of country. I
know Roma wouldn't sell me to a rival club in Serie A, so I must look abroad. "I'd
like to play in England and where better than a club that can win trophies - a club
like Manchester United. They're a great team and I know I could help them."
Pesky agents.
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[3] Scholes rips into FIFA award
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
After they placed David Beckham sixth best Scholes rightly said: "I can't see there
being five better players than David Beckham, he's been brilliant, he's had a great
year, I don't think he'll be too happy with sixth".
Becks finished behind Zidane, Figo, Rivaldo, Shevchenko and Batistuta.
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[2] Quote of the day
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Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
"The Worthington Cup is something I value. After all, I have a very good goalscoring
record in this competition. I think I have scored something like 25 times in 29 games.
I think if this was an English test, my marks would be above average!" - Robbie Fowler
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[1] Team name related to city?
---------------------------------
Posted Wednesday, December 13, 2000 by bar-knee:
>From Irish Newspaper clipping (thanks to Paul).
Best football team name has to go to 'Theyall Betis' who play in the UCD (University
College Dublin) budweiser super league. Massive club, no doubt.
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[36] 24...25...Stop the clock turning - until the replay!
---------------------------------
Posted Tuesday, December 12, 2000 by bar-knee:
24...25
and as we wait for the clock to tick to 25 we may have to wait just a few more days
yet as ref Graham Poll abandoned the Worthington Cup quarter-final clash between city
and Ipswich after 27 minutes due to a waterlogged pitch with the score standing at 1-1.
No talk of fate from Bitters either - it's just a delay of the inevitable as every Red
knows!
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[35] Today's use Becks' name to get a silly story in the press...
---------------------------------
Posted Tuesday, December 12, 2000 by bar-knee:
"David and Victoria Beckham have been causing Royal Mail staff a headache by
forgetting to address their letters properly. The couple have been among more than one
million letter senders every week who either forget to address their mail or fail to
give enough information on the envelope.
The head of Royal Mail's National Return Centre, Ray Kennedy, disclosed that his team
had to play super sleuths for the Beckhams shortly after the birth of Brooklyn when
they failed properly to address "thank you" letters to Ryan Giggs and Jamie Redknapp.
Instead, they addressed the letters to "Davinia and Ryan", referring to the flying
winger's girlfriend at the time, and "Louise and Jamie". Staff forwarded both letters
to Manchester United after noticing that they had been signed by David, Victoria and
Brooklyn. More than one million undeliverable letters turn up at the return centre in
Belfast every week and some 10,000 packets with inadequate addresses arrive at the
parcel return centre in Portsmouth."
And that's it?
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[34] Fergie must stay - IMUSA
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Posted Tuesday, December 12, 2000 by bar-knee:
IMUSA chairman, Mark Longden, said: "We would like Fergie to remain at the club,
preferably as manager but definitely in one capacity or another. I know Shareholders
United are calling for him to be made chairman when Martin Edwards bites the bullet
I think that would be a good thing. There couldn't be a better man for the job.
There is a divide at the club between the players, manager and fans on one side and
the board on the other. It is in the best interests of the players and the manager to
have as good an atmosphere as possible, while the plc need to strike a balance
between that and the money the corporate fans bring in. We feel there is enough room
for everyone."
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[33] Fergie on our rush of games
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Posted Tuesday, December 12, 2000 by bar-knee:
"We are coming to a period now where we have six games in the next 16 days and
something gives in those situations. We have a game next Sunday against Liverpool and
that will have been a good eight- day break for us after Graz and Charlton.
Fortunately there is then another six day rest before we play Ipswich on December 23
at Old Trafford. But it is after that that it starts to pile up a bit. Starting on
Boxing Day at Aston Villa we have four games in 10 days. That's when we'll need to
rest people and change them around."
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[32] Fergie wants to keep Teddy and Irwin
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Posted Tuesday, December 12, 2000 by bar-knee:
"I'd like them to stay on. Fitness-wise they are both looking in good condition and
their performance levels are good. I want them to stay because of the experience they
give us. They've both got that in abundance and both of them have kept themselves in
great physical shape. You need to have that to play here.
You have to be at peak fitness to cope with the level we are playing at and the
number of games we play. It is obvious to do that you need to be in good order and
that's the case with the both of them. We all know about their ability but the other
things allow them to stay on longer than other players in football. It is a great
credit to both of them that they have kept in great shape and retained their ability.
We have gauge when we can give them breaks but there is no denying their abilities.
Time does catch up on footballers but they are both doing terrifically. I just wish
they were 29!"
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[31] Naughty Ronaldo
---------------------------------
Posted Tuesday, December 12, 2000 by bar-knee:
Inter Milan's injured Ronaldo has been fined for drink- driving after a night out in
northern Spain. He was given a £70 on- the-spot fine for being over the legal limit.
The 24-year-old, real name Ronaldo Luis Nazario de Lima, was crossing the
Spanish-French border on his way back to Capbreton in southern France after attending
a party in the Basque city of San Sebastian.
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[30] And Joe Royle said - you definitely are 'aving a larf
---------------------------------
Posted Tuesday, December 12, 2000 by bar-knee:
"We're serious about (winning) the League Cup, believe me. We haven't won anything
for 24 years and it would be nice to go into the 25th year with some silverware
about."
Only in your kitchen Joe.
