Sorry for getting defensive -- i've been running up against a very unhelpful
wall the past week over in FNH world ...

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Joe Brockhaus
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On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:59 PM, John Davidson <[email protected]> wrote:

> If you really want the FK as part of the object then just add it as it is
> as a simple property and then you become responsible for management of that
> property. NHibernate will not help you manage the values, nor will it stop
> you, but you must keep track of the relationships in your code yourself.
> Cascade does not play any part in this.
>
> If you want cascade to function as designed then listen to the advice and
> build the object model with the collections correctly. You will find that
> the tables have the FK in them as you expect, if you also let NHibernate
> generate the ddl for your database.
>
> John Davidson
>
>
>
>   On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Joe Brockhaus <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>   well, that still leaves me with 0 answers, and 2 concerns which really
>> shouldn't matter.
>>
>> DTOs:
>> -- RIA creates these for me, inherently, through generated code in the
>> client(Silverlight) project.
>> -- When RIA sends back my entities from the client, it translates them
>> back into my Ticket POCO.
>> -- I am using an MVVM approach. That has nothing to do with what i'm
>> asking about. (I'd explain more, but I've learned my lesson here: giving
>> people more information doesn't help find a solution)
>>
>> FKs in Domain:
>> -- OK, so NHib doesn't want them. So what? That should mean that to
>> NHibernate, there is no difference between my FK field and any other field.
>> -- I asked about mapping the FK as read-only, always-generated (to force
>> NHib to populate the value).
>> ---- Will that work? Why not?
>>
>> Regardless of what you think about my approach to the domain and needing
>> the FK in it, you're not telling me that NHibernate can't accomplish my
>> scenario: just that you don't want to help me figure out how, or that you
>> don't know how. The answer you and 'the other guys' are giving me is that
>> the ONLY way I can get the value of a FK into my domain, is as a field based
>> on the Note.Ticket object reference, and that the only way to map such an
>> object is to create yet another layer in my domain that takes the NHib proxy
>> and copies it to a new entity that has a property for that FK that the NHib
>> proxy object did not ... I find it hard to believe that's the ONLY
>> 'solution'.
>> If you can't (or don't want to) answer the question of 'how to solve this
>> whole problem', can you at least answer some of the questions which don't
>> require knowledge of the whole problem:???
>>
>> QUESTION:
>> -- Does a one-to-many association necessarily mean that I should NEVER add
>> an object that is contained in the collection directly to the NHib session?
>> I thought this was a matter of how Cascade was set, but who knows ...
>>   -- i.e - a new Note should be added to Ticket.Notes, and then Ticket
>> should be either saved or merged into the NHib session?
>>
>> If you read the other threads, then you know that I KNOW that NHibernate &
>> FNH can do what I'm wanting, as there is an example using FNH automapping. I
>> just can't make it work with manual mappings, and can't use automapping for
>> my application.
>>
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