I'm also happy to talk politics (and explain why Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming is a complete crock of .).
_____ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2011 2:02 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Team for Albion I don't think that you, I or anyone else that doesn't believe has any right to expect to receive protection from someone/something that they don't believe in. It's like expecting to win the lottery without buying a ticket. As an atheist I've chosen to believe that I'm responsible for my own destiny and that it's up to me to make decisions and face crisis without any guidance or assistance from any form of God or higher spirit. As such I don't hope to benefit from the good fortune or otherwise of the people who do believe (except to benefit from public holidays). Maybe we should switch to politics? From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2011 1:54 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Team for Albion Some good points raised Marcus. I think there are plenty in Eastern Europe and South America. As for the others, you're saying that it's their bad luck to be born in the wrong country as God is spiteful and will only help believers? If that's the case, it's a risk practicing any religion isn't it? I mean suppose the Jehohah's Witnesses are the ones who are right. Jeremy is just making God even more mad by doing the wrong thing whereas I fly under the radar. Does the halo effect of me living in a Christian society/nation mean that I get the protection afforded to my Christian neighbour whilst also still being an atheist? I've got a sort of human sheild around me. On 3 May 2011 13:38, Marcus Chantry <marcus.chan...@macquarie.com> wrote: I'm happy to be corrected but I would suspect that the vast majority of those 2 million children would not be part of a Christian society/nation, so the God of which Jeremy speaks is unlikely to help them. That's not to say that they don't have their own 'spiritual' leader/icon that may or may not have let them down. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2011 1:18 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Team for Albion Still, it seems a trifle unfair that two million children worldwide are forced to work as prostitutes and barely know anything else, when God could end it all with a wave of the wand. I'm sure even if they knew about Jesus, it would be of little comfort whilst they are getting beaten and sodomized. On 3 May 2011 13:00, Jeremy Tonks <to...@hotkey.net.au> wrote: I may get to a longer response. but probably not. The standard argument goes something like: If God is all powerful and all loving how come there is suffering in the world? The basic premise is flawed from my point of view. I'd respond something like: If God is all powerful and all loving and there is suffering in the world then God must have an important purpose involving suffering. As in all theological discussions Jesus needs be kept at the centre - and there he is as soon you raise the issue of suffering. God's purposes in creation are centred on Jesus. Jesus' own suffering, death and resurrection are the guarantee that, when he returns, death will have no power and suffering will be ended. Forever. There's my briefest theodicy. I can trust God now and into the future because of what Jesus has done in the past. I'll just duck down while you all start shooting. _____ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2011 10:17 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Team for Albion You'd better give us a run down on your views on theodicy then Jeremy. I don't think most of us get it. On 3 May 2011 09:53, Jeremy Tonks <to...@hotkey.net.au> wrote: Your lack of experience in these matters is getting the best of you Rog. You should experiment more. I am convinced that it is very effective (in important matters!). _____ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rog & Reet Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2011 7:27 AM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Team for Albion If you blokes had spoken to wiser heads on this list you'd have known that praying is just like Mick. A total waste of time as it's guaranteed to achieve **** all. From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Tonks Sent: Monday, 2 May 2011 8:12 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Team for Albion I've been going to mass and my prayers aren't being answered - I think I'll go back to being Anglican! Too cup focussed - and the ^*&%*() opposition is too good (but I did beat Chelseadrid yesterday - :-) :-) JT _____ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Monday, 2 May 2011 7:09 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Team for Albion You can't let the Wombat's drop down to V. It's only bots and newbies in there. What's gone wrong? On 2 May 2011 17:32, Jeremy Tonks <to...@hotkey.net.au> wrote: Don't look at me Paul - I suggest you cut out the middleman and talk directly yourself!! Marcus is right - the only positive was a point that I hadn't banked but (but had publicly hoped for). It was an away game - this Sunday is huge. But it'll probably still come down to a win against Blackburn so that we scramble over Wigan and Blackpool to survival. A bit disappointed - all my ducks were lining up. Walsall won and only need a draw to survive. Shrewsbury won and a final win would see them promoted. Bundanoon Wombats had a shock win and will still be relegated. Wolves.? Glad I don't get to watch the tripe they've dealt out in recent weeks. _____ From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Crowe Sent: Monday, 2 May 2011 2:45 PM To: nswolves@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Team for Albion On reflection we were worse than clueless, it was a totally inept and impotent performance! I admire some of your continued optimism but my rose coloured glasses now lie smashed on the floor. Time to wake up to the reality that we are going down, only a miracle can save us! Over to you Jeremy! Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com Website: www.contechengineering.com <http://www.contechengineering.com/> From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Taylor Sent: Monday, 2 May 2011 2:09 PM To: Wolves Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Team for Albion Has he ever taken off Henry? I don't think I've ever seen him subbed. Would like to have seen Henry subbed by Guedioura on 65 mins last night. _____ Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 13:25:57 +1000 Subject: [NSWolves] Team for Albion From: millward....@gmail.com To: nswolves@googlegroups.com My choice: --------------------Henessey------------------------- Foley----Stearman----Craddock----George Hunt---Guedioura---O'Hara---Milijas---Jarvis ---------------------Fletcher---------------------------- Chance of it being picked: 0% -- Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be? A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked. -- Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be? A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked. -- Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be? A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked. -- Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be? 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