You say that there is only one god, but in ancient Greece, Rome and Egypt, there were many gods, and anyone that said otherwise would have been considered a fool.
When Akenhaten died in Egypt, and creating the first monotheistic religion his ideas were erased from history. On 4 May 2011 13:12, Jeremy Tonks <to...@hotkey.net.au> wrote: > At least you’re being logical Rog. I think you have a 50/50 choice > logically. Either there is one God and one only or there is no God. My > problem with your summary here of there being > > 3 religions following one God is that I think you actually have 3 religions > following 3 gods. > > > > I’m about to get even more esoteric. There are three monotheistic world > religions… > > > > Well I actually disagree with that. There are two monotheistic religions – > Islam and Judaism. > > Christianity is on its own as a Trinitarian religion. That is one God who > has revealed himself as three distinct persons. > > Can it get more confusing than that? > > > > BUT you ask, “ Why didn’t this god thing yell it’s message in everybody’s > ear and then send them a confirmation telegram?’ > > > > That’s exactly what I believe he did do/has done. But of course that then > rocks the other boats. > > We human beings are unbelievable complex – capable of unimaginable > brilliance and glory and at exactly the same time capable of unspeakable > evil and horror. I cite any war that you care to name. > > > > The Christian worldview puts forward that God has made everyone and > everything but that human beings don’t want a God – I’d rather fill that > role myself thank you very much – and so we have to attack him. A direct > attack on God is a very low percentage play and so we attack his image > instead (each other). That helps me to understand 6 million murdered > directly and 50 million in total. > > > > It’s not God’s fault – it’s mine because I’m part of the problem. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Rog & Reet > *Sent:* Wednesday, 4 May 2011 9:20 AM > > *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Team for Albion > > > > Why are these god things so shitehouse at getting their message over? > > We’ve got three major religions all following the same god. > > They’re split into god knows how many sub-sects, each following a different > interpretation of their holy books. > > Now Hitler was sent as a messenger, was this via a virgin birth as well? > > Why didn’t this god thing yell it’s message in everybody’s ear and then > send them a confirmation telegram? > > Instead we have 6 million murdered directly and over 50 million killed in > total. > > > > > > *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *mark worrall > *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 May 2011 1:42 PM > *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Team for Albion > > > > Tend to agree Jeremy that 'God must have an important purpose involving > suffering', especially if you take it in a greater context, i.e we don't > just have one life. From a lot of the texts I've read, it's all about > choosing Love over Fear. Whether it be the person causing the suffering, or > those on the receiving end, in that particular life. I once read an > interesting discussion on why Hitler was a messenger, in that he was sent > here to show how evil people can be, choosing to cause suffering to others > (in the masses) while bound by their own Fears, and inspiring/challenging > the rest of us to choose to reject it. Have you read 'Conversations with > God' trilogy ? The only book(s) I've read that really try to answer all the > questions the rest avoid (btw: in it God describes religions as 'fear based > theologies used by a minority to control the masses'). > > > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Jeremy Tonks <to...@hotkey.net.au> wrote: > > I may get to a longer response… but probably not… > > > > The standard argument goes something like: If God is all powerful and all > loving how come there is suffering in the world? > > The basic premise is flawed from my point of view. I’d respond something > like: > > If God is all powerful and all loving and there is suffering in the world > then God must have an important purpose involving suffering. > > > > As in all theological discussions Jesus needs be kept at the centre – and > there he is as soon you raise the issue of suffering. > > > > God’s purposes in creation are centred on Jesus. Jesus’ own suffering, > death and resurrection are the guarantee that, when he returns, death will > have no power and suffering will be ended. Forever. > > > > There’s my briefest theodicy. I can trust God now and into the future > because of what Jesus has done in the past. > > > > I’ll just duck down while you all start shooting… > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Steven Millward > *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 May 2011 10:17 AM > *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com > > > *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Team for Albion > > > > You'd better give us a run down on your views on theodicy then Jeremy. I > don't think most of us get it. > > On 3 May 2011 09:53, Jeremy Tonks <to...@hotkey.net.au> wrote: > > Your lack of experience in these matters is getting the best of you Rog. > You should experiment more. I am convinced that it is very effective (in > important matters!). > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Rog & Reet > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 May 2011 7:27 AM > > *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Team for Albion > > > > If you blokes had spoken to wiser heads on this list you’d have known that > praying is just like Mick. > > A total waste of time as it’s guaranteed to achieve **** all. > > > > > > *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Jeremy Tonks > *Sent:* Monday, 2 May 2011 8:12 PM > *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Team for Albion > > > > I’ve been going to mass and my prayers aren’t being answered – I think I’ll > go back to being Anglican! > > > > Too cup focussed – and the ^*&%*() opposition is too good (but I did beat > Chelseadrid yesterday - J J > > > > JT > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Steven Millward > *Sent:* Monday, 2 May 2011 7:09 PM > *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Team for Albion > > > > You can't let the Wombat's drop down to V. It's only bots and newbies in > there. What's gone wrong? > > On 2 May 2011 17:32, Jeremy Tonks <to...@hotkey.net.au> wrote: > > Don’t look at me Paul – I suggest you cut out the middleman and talk > directly yourself!! > > > > Marcus is right – the only positive was a point that I hadn’t banked but > (but had publicly hoped for). > > > > It was an away game – this Sunday is huge. But it’ll probably still come > down to a win against Blackburn so that we scramble over Wigan and Blackpool > to survival. > > > > > > A bit disappointed – all my ducks were lining up. Walsall won and only need > a draw to survive. Shrewsbury won and a final win would see them promoted. > Bundanoon Wombats had a shock win and will still be relegated. Wolves…? Glad > I don’t get to watch the tripe they’ve dealt out in recent weeks. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Paul Crowe > > > *Sent:* Monday, 2 May 2011 2:45 PM > *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com > > *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Team for Albion > > > > On reflection we were worse than clueless, it was a totally inept and > impotent performance! > > > > I admire some of your continued optimism but my rose coloured glasses now > lie smashed on the floor. Time to wake up to the reality that we are going > down, only a miracle can save us! Over to you Jeremy! > > > > Paul Crowe > > Sales Manager - Asia Pacific > > > > ConTech (Sydney Office) > > > > PO Box 3517 > > Rhodes Waterside > > Rhodes NSW 2138 > > Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 > > Mob: 0406009562 > > Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com > > Website: www.contechengineering.com > > > > *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Paul Taylor > *Sent:* Monday, 2 May 2011 2:09 PM > *To:* Wolves > *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Team for Albion > > > > Has he ever taken off Henry? I don't think I've ever seen him subbed. Would > like to have seen Henry subbed by Guedioura on 65 mins last night. > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 13:25:57 +1000 > Subject: [NSWolves] Team for Albion > From: millward....@gmail.com > To: nswolves@googlegroups.com > > My choice: > > > > --------------------Henessey------------------------- > > Foley----Stearman----Craddock----George > > Hunt---Guedioura---O'Hara---Milijas---Jarvis > > ---------------------Fletcher---------------------------- > > > > > > Chance of it being picked: > > > > 0% > > > -- > Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be? > A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked. > > -- > Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be? > A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked. > > -- > Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be? > A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked. > > -- > Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be? > A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked. > > > > -- > Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be? > A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked. > > -- > Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be? > A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked. > > -- > Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be? > A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked. > > -- > Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be? > A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked. > > > > -- > Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be? > A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked. > > -- > Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be? > A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked. > > > > -- > Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be? > A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked. > > -- > Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be? > A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked. > > -- > Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be? > A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked. > -- Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be? A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked.
