Can you ping the other network? Maybe ping at least the router over
there.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bartolini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Airport security (was: The idiocy continues!)
One of my favorite pastimes is the airport. Any time I wanted to I could
go sit within comfortable distance of any commercial airplane
arriving/leaving the eastcoast. There are times when I was questioned by
some poor guy making some minimal wage to drive around in a car asking
people like me to leave. But that is as far as it goes. The airport is
very lax in security. I can remember seeing the president arrive and you
do not get to hang around too long then.
I remember not long ago driving to the airport and paying to park under
the terminal. Years ago they blocked off the underground parking and you
could only park outside. The only cars allowed to sit under the terminal
now are Livery Vehicles.(probably not now)
For more than 35 years I have been through that same airport. It is
ironic that the service industry is allowed into that secure space. I
bet you they do not go through a proper security check. Or how many of
them may have aided in the recent attack. Who knows..
People do not want to pay but when they have no other choice...they pay
anyway.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: Airport security (was: The idiocy continues!)
> >> If anything these airports need to be privatized and
> >> the security force needs to be trained and made to
> >> do their jobs. It's that simple.
>
> And what job were they supposed to be doing that they didn't?
>
>
> If you took a poll last week about airplane/airport security, would
> there have been the same level of outcry?
>
>
> There is often a tendency to over-react in situations like this and
suggest
> that every process in the equation is broken. I am not suggesting that
> airport security is stellar and could not be improved. However, to my
> knowledge, there was no particular breach of security that was taken
> advantage of, for this event.
>
> If anything, having an Air Marshall (or two) on board might have had a
> positive impact. Likewise, denying access to the cockpit would be a
> good idea.
>
> The problem is that everyone wants to be secure, but they don't want
> to spend any time or money to do it.
>
>
>
>
> - ASB
>
>
>
> - ASB
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kent Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Airport security (was: The idiocy continues!)
>
>
> Ya gotta be kidding. Most of the airports are "managed" by local
> governments and they can't get it right. What makes you think the
> Feds
are
> able to do it. Where I live (Atlanta), the General Manager is a
> politcal crony of the Mayor and is an incompetent clown at best. If
> anything these airports need to be privatized and the security force
> needs to be trained and made to do their jobs. It's that simple. I
> work around the airport
so
> I see it all the time.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kent Neff
>
>
> >From: Benjamin Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Airport security (was: The idiocy continues!)
> >Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:13:46 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Phillips, Glen wrote:
> > > I've noticed that in amongst all the criticism of poor security at
> > > Boston airport, no-one has suggested paying the people who operate
> > > the metal detector screens and x-ray machines a bit more than what
> > > they currently get (which is reported as on a par with someone who
> > > flips burgers in a diner).
> >
> > I have seen mentioned several times that the people supposedly
guarding
> >air-travel security are minimum wage workers who have not been
> >trained. Many are calling for the government to take over airport
> >security.
> >
> > Myself, I think that makes sense. One of the functions of
> > government
is
> >to protect the people, i.e., to establish and maintain a police
> >force.
The
> >government already patrols roads, trains, and general property. To
> >me,
it
> >makes sense to extend that same protection to air travel.
> >
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