Windows Phone is a central part of Microsoft's future strategy around a seamless, "blurred" endpoint, encompassing any internet-connected device. Just look at Windows 8. This is the OS platform for phones, desktops, tablets, TVs, whatever.
With Blackberry dying a slow and somewhat comical death, Android being incapable of being used in a true corporate environment (it's ridiculously insecure) and iPhone being a non-enterprise product (you want every user to have to login with an iTunes account??), Microsoft has a real chance here. I am betting on Windows Phone as a dark horse. It has a real shot of capturing the enterprise, replacing Blackberry. If they can make it free and cheap for the masses (cost, high level of functionality and wide availability being major drivers behind Android's success), it gets really interesting. Alex From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 7:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? Excellent points, Marc While I'm still in wait-n-see mode with WP7[1], I am reasonably confident that Microsoft will continue to forge ahead because they recognize the importance of mobile to their overall, long-term success. The consumerization of IT is not a fad, despite how annoying that concept may be to some of us... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... [1] Hey, when did this stop being WordPerfect 7? :) On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:10 AM, Marc Maiffret <mmaiff...@eeye.com<mailto:mmaiff...@eeye.com>> wrote: I couldn't agree more. I love the other posters comments (sorry memory isn't working) about WP7 looking to be a good blend of the good of Android and iPhone for the two different reasons stated previously. You are right about iOS that it definitely just performs better than Android. I think WP7 is on par from a general "does it just work well" but way a head from a UI/experience perspective. The Nokia releases should be in November, so not to long now. I had a Samsung Focus WP7 device and absolutely loved it but went back to my Android device as the lack of multi-tasking and commonly used applications was something I could not live without. Now that Mango is basically out I am just waiting for Nokia and others to launch their Mango based phones and I have a feeling I will be switching back. Both because I really do with WP7 is the best of both worlds as it relates to Android and iPhone and also because as someone whom stills like to write code (as a hobby, smarter guys at eEye write the code these days!) there is absolutely no comparison to the joy of developing in C# in Visual Studio vs. something like Objective C in X Code or Android Eclipse plugins etc... While talking about this space in none security terms (although I think WP7 will stand strong on security, it has a solid foundation in WinCE) I know MS has made many mistakes in the mobile market but at the end of the day 3 things matter: 1. Do they have a good product? Yes, WP7 is absolutely solid (especially now with Mango) and just a completely different UI experience that is absolutely stunning when leveraged by the right applications 2. Do they have a channel and manufacturing partners to leverage to get the product to market? Yes, Microsoft absolutely crushes in this area and has a lot of leverage not to mention cash to throw at companies like Nokia to go all in on WP7. 3. Do they have a large enough developer community? Yes, this is another area that Microsoft is king. And in fact they are doing a lot of things to make transitioning their legion of C# Windows OS developers over to WP7 in an easy way. I won't even get into Windows 8 and all the dynamics that brings to their WP7 market, but it is not anything to laugh at. 4. Wild Card - I think Microsoft is in the market for a long haul. The reality is that they CANNOT lose the mobile space as the game has changed to not just be consumers driving business choices anymore but more so consumer mobile devices in the future driving businesses. This is already happening even now with the latest OSX and Windows 8 releases where they are creating AppStores and all of the other things learned from the mobile world. The reality is that YOUR users want their desktop computing experience to be a lot more like what they get on their iPad and indeed it will be increasingly more difficult in the future to be a successful desktop OS manufacture if you are not a strong player in the mobile space. Alright, too much coffee and I need to get to sleep for tomorrows eEye vulnerability expert form which if you have not checked out is me and the research guys basically nerding out about the latest MS patches, whats happening in security and also going to discuss some recent Android (ha!) vulnerabilities that illustrate how manufactures are really screwing things up for Google. http://www.eeye.com/vef -Marc -----Original Message----- From: David Liu [mailto:ganymed...@gmail.com<mailto:ganymed...@gmail.com>] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? Marc, I think you hit the nail right on the head. Apple charges expensively for the design but the innards are the same as other cheaply made (or wose) knock-off & substandard phones. But there _is_ somethingt o be said for the iOS subsystem as it was designed/written not only for usability but efficient use of memory/processing. On the ipad (gen 1 even) I've never seen a lag as I have on the Android counterpart (Acer A500 is what I have to compare to). I am excited about WinMo phones just not sure if I could wait another year :) Am currently looking @ all the HTC models and wanting to see if we can get work to foot the bill until the next hardware release from MS/Nokia camp. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Marc Maiffret <mmaiff...@eeye.com<mailto:mmaiff...@eeye.com>> wrote: I would wait until the phones from Nokia come out. They should have some pretty solid unibody designs that give iPhone a run for its money. Regardless of OS the iPhone still is the best designed phone but like their laptops (which I run windows on) you get what you pay for with Apple hardware. Wait until the end of the year (November even) and Nokia and others should have some other new phones out for WP7 that will rock. HTC has a couple of new ones, but I think Nokia will out do them hardware wise... -Marc Signed, Marc Maiffret Founder/CTO eEye Digital Security WEB: http://www.eEye.com BLOG: http://blog.eeye.com TWITTER: http://twitter.com/marcmaiffret -----Original Message----- From: David Liu [mailto:ganymed...@gmail.com<mailto:ganymed...@gmail.com>] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? John et others which model of WinMo are you using & in your opnion best Win7 Phone to get? On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:52 AM, John Hornbuckle <john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us<mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>> wrote: Wait for what, though? It was a solid platform out of the gate (I've had a WP7 phone for nearly a year). With the Mango update that just came out, some rough edges were polished and the platform really shines. There's nothing I want to be able to do with my WP7 phone that I can't do-although obviously everyone has differing needs. WP7 gives choice (like Android) without fragmentation (like iPhone). It's the best of both worlds. John From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? Windows Phone is still wait and see. -- Sent from Kaiten Mail for Android. Please excuse my brevity. John Hornbuckle <john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us<mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>> wrote: There's a third viable platform: Windows Phone 7. John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us<http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com<mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com>] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Android Handset Makers - Adding Value or Vulnerabilities? So, does this mean your smartphone is an iphone? Bill Marc Maiffret wrote: > I thought some of the NTSYSADMIN'ers would enjoy this post as I saw the HTC vuln. was mentioned the other day here. > > http://blog.eeye.com/vulnerability-management/android_security > > If nothing else fun hack to mess with your HTC/Samsung Android using > co-workers. :-) > > -Marc > > Signed, > Marc Maiffret > Founder/CTO > eEye Digital Security > WEB: http://www.eEye.com > BLOG: http://blog.eeye.com > TWITTER: http://twitter.com/marcmaiffret > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com<mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin DISCLAIMER The information contained in this electronic mail may be confidential or legally privileged. It is for the intended recipient(s) only. 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