We do use forwarders on both servers.  They are both currently set to 4.2.2.1 
and 4.2.2.2, we have tried the local ISP provided DNS on both servers.
We have no conditional forwaders enabled.

Greg Sweers
CEO
ACTS360.com<http://www.acts360.com/>
P.O. Box 1193
Brandon, FL  33509
813-657-0849 Office
813-758-6850 Cell
813-341-1270 Fax

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: 2008 R2 DNS strangeness

Do you use forwarders?  If so, are they the same for both servers?

What about conditional forwarders?  Are any setup?  If so, are they the same 
for both servers?
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Greg Sweers 
<gswe...@acts360.com<mailto:gswe...@acts360.com>> wrote:
No we have only a few clients on RR and none of them use it for anything but 
internet.  All email is hosted.
For the last 2 days since I have pointed them to another DC running DNS they 
have had no issues, but that DC is at another office.  If I manually set one of 
them back to the suspect DNS they about every 15 to 20 mins hit a site or click 
an link inside of gmail, page cannot be displayed, hit F5 and bam the page 
comes up.  I haven't been able to get on to run DNS queries at the same time, 
but I am going onsite to do some wifi stuff Friday so I will test then.

Greg Sweers
CEO
ACTS360.com
P.O. Box 1193
Brandon, FL  33509
813-657-0849<tel:813-657-0849> Office
813-758-6850<tel:813-758-6850> Cell
813-341-1270<tel:813-341-1270> Fax


-----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:li...@levelfive.us<mailto:li...@levelfive.us>]
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 9:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2008 R2 DNS strangeness

Hey Greg, just curious are you seeing any issues with rr.com<http://rr.com/> up 
there? we have an office in Tampa and since last week are getting really weird 
connectivity coming out of roadrunner, and today we couldn't even email 
rr.com<http://rr.com/> from down here I was getting no route to host ... we 
have 3 connections with this client, a T1 from Paetec, a Cable from Comcast, 
and a 10mb fiber from Host.Net and all are having weird routing/locating issues 
with roadrunner ...

I don't know if that might shed some light on your situation either..

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Sweers [mailto:gswe...@acts360.com<mailto:gswe...@acts360.com>]
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 2008 R2 DNS strangeness

Thx Ben.  I will get to test some more in the morning.  I had to move them all 
to another DNS server in the office for some major projects today and they were 
flipping out.  Tomorrow most of them are out so I will let you know.  Thx

Greg Sweers
CEO
ACTS360.com
P.O. Box 1193
Brandon, FL  33509
813-657-0849<tel:813-657-0849> Office
813-758-6850<tel:813-758-6850> Cell
813-341-1270<tel:813-341-1270> Fax

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com<mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: 2008 R2 DNS strangeness

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Greg Sweers 
<gswe...@acts360.com<mailto:gswe...@acts360.com>> wrote:
> Sorry should have been more clear.  The NSlookup is to the internal DC
> server.   When you try and query it comes up with service failure or
> timeout.

 Right, but the question is, do you get different behaviors depending on what 
name you query.  If my DC/DNS server is 192.0.2.10, and my AD domain is 
<example.net<http://example.net/>.>, I would compare:

       nslookup example.net<http://example.net/>. 192.0.2.10

with

       nslookup google.com<http://google.com/>. 192.0.2.10

 I'd also check a site unlikely to be cached, such as:

       nslookup purple.com<http://purple.com/>. 192.0.2.10

 I'd also run a query against an external resolver:

       nslookup google.com<http://google.com/>. 8.8.8.8

 I'd also avoid NSLOOKUP and use DIG (you can get it from the ISC BIND 
distribution).  NSLOOKUP is historically prone to giving bad diagnostics.  I 
don't know if Microsoft has fixed their version, but DIG gives better 
information than NSLOOKUP even when both are working correctly.  Example
syntax:

       dig example.net<http://example.net/>. @192.0.2.10<http://192.0.2.10/>

> When you try and query it comes up with service failure or timeout.

 Be aware that SERVFAIL is an actual DNS result code from a nameserver, while a 
timeout is NSLOOKUP getting tired of waiting for the nameserver to respond.

-- Ben

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