I'm sorry, but I'm missing your point here. >From my side, I'm stating that Lyris licensing hasn't changed significantly >for nearly 20 years, and so arguing over whether it's a good way of licensing >is probably pointless. Those that use Lyris have known and accepted the >licensing model.
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 26 March 2012 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Good SBS list The list performance hasn't been an issue, before. On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote: Lyris has been licenced like this since (at least) the 1990s. Can we move on please? -----Original Message----- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com<mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>] Sent: Sunday, 25 March 2012 9:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Good SBS list I admittedly deaned a whole slew of messages from here... fortunately I didn't miss the real important stuff about BBQ sauce or the one about Bruce Wayne masquerading as an IT guy with an anonymous gmail account. If this was common knowledge, I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned a week or two ago when the slow msg delivery was such an issue. That having been said... I maintain it's rather funky licensing model. License via CPU core, membership size, total # of lists, etc..., that seems to be more a more reasonable method that most vendors that sell mail servers, databases, etc... follow. That would be like MS licensing Exchange not on total number of mailboxes, or store size, but the number of messages your server could send in any given hour. -sc -----Original Message----- From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com<mailto:c.house...@gmail.com>] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 12:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Good SBS list Sunbelt/GFI posted some time ago about the Lyris situation (please try to keep up). It's due to a licensing change in the newer version of Lyris, and they didn't want to pay the higher price to unthrottle message delivery. Carl -----Original Message----- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com<mailto:scaes...@caesare.com>] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 12:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Good SBS list > Again, the issue is rate limiting (messages per time) in the Lyris software. Adding more computrons won't make it go faster. That's what I find odd. You described it as " an artificial limit". And I assume that if The Powers that Be are suggesting that's the cause it's not a configurable parameter. Not a very "commercial grade" feature if it can't be changed and it's ham-stringing your 16-core 32GB server sitting behind a 100Mb metro-ethernet link...[1] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com<mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com<mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
