"Extremely granular and an extreme PITA to do any work for. Need a VM for testing purposes? A minimum 3 month process as it went thru all the change control processes."
Although I don't appreciate the 3 month process, from my experience on huge networks, using a structured methodology such as this provides more good than bad. If the VM is needed for testing a truly well thought out engineered solution probably would have thought that out from the beginning. Shooting from the hip is usually what causes the network outages, so no root cause analysis would be truly needed in that environment. Just my $0.02. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 12:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualization Questions - More Q's From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Subject: RE: Virtualization Questions - More Q's No, you don't that type of experience. But when you have 1000 IT personnel, they can't all be AD people, or even domain admins. I did some AD/GPO/WSUS troubleshooting for a company in the Global Fortune 15. For the one small segment of their network I worked on, they had over 6,000 servers and over 35,000 PCs. They had two dedicated IT staff who did nothing but maintain the huge Excel SS of all their DHCP scopes, reservations, server static IPs and server/scope options. They had people who did nothing but monitor NetBackup, people who changed tapes, people who handled Iron Mountain, etc. Extremely granular and an extreme PITA to do any work for. Need a VM for testing purposes? A minimum 3 month process as it went thru all the change control processes. Webster From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Subject: RE: Virtualization Questions - More Q's Wow, that's really compartmentalized. I dunno if I'd want to work somewhere that limits me that much as far as what I'm working with. And yet, I'm sure if you apply for one of those positions, you are still required to have 10+ years experience, and expertise with Windows, Unix, mainframes, every desktop OS known to man, etc. Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Subject: RE: Virtualization Questions - More Q's I work for Avanade - we deal mostly with large enterprises (Global 500 type companies). In those types of orgs the AD team is usually separate from Virtualisation (which is predominantly VMWare), which is again separate from the hardware components (network, security, storage). Even as a directory, AD is usually limited to the Wintel area, and most large orgs have significant investment in *nix, midrange/mainframe systems as well. The "source of truth" is generally other systems like HR/payroll. As I said before - in smaller shops, there's usually significant overlap, so it's not really an issue. In larger shops (once there isn't a predominance of Windows), and AD isn't "king", it starts to become something that needs to be dealt with in some way. Cheers Ken ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
