Citywide or statewide franchise, makes no difference. Still a franchise and still a state-granted monopoly. What is the problem with monopoly? Well, the classical analysis finds dead-weight costs. What's the problem with a state-granted monopoly? Well, there's at least two. First, an ordinary monopoly might be disentrenched. That's at least the belief of some people in some economics depts. Second, competition for grant of the monopoly through use of influence with the local government, whether that be a municipal or a state government, just seems to lead to obviously sub-optimal outcomes.

Jim Henry wrote:

Look to the franchising issue to change, if not go away.  Due to the ILECs
entering the video market they are trying their very best NOT to have to
jump through all the hoops the cable company's were forced to.  They've
already gotten the law changed in Texas to where a company can apply for a
state wide franchise rather than have to apply for a franchise with each
municipality. Since municipal video franchises were just a way for the
munipalities to extort all kinds of services for free or discount in return
for the franchise, this should be at least some improvement. I'm sure the
cable company's are not going to sit still and allow this to change for
Verizon, Quest, and SBC(AT&T) and not have a level playing field so they
will do their utmost to be included in these changes or get the law changed
back so that the ILECs must compete with  the same rules.
Jim

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Subsidy or no subsidy, we only have to consider the far superior quality of South Korean broadband to realize that the entire notion of providing a market solution to satisfy a market need has absolutely broken down in the case of our country. It has always seemed to me that the underylying theme theme in the capitalistic creed is a lack of orthodoxy. It seems a failure of the creed to ignore the crucial fact that private solutions to telecommunications problems in the US or through the private economy usually (if not always) involve the grant of a local franchise. I don't see why the municipality can't grant itself the franchise. I'm tired of any reflex response that fails to take account of our surpassing failure in this crucial are of our business and social infrastructure.

Jim Henry wrote:

Lars,
Perhaps there is no subsidy in your case. I may have
mis-understood.
If the municipality involved did not fund the fiber build with tax dollars, and is making a profit on the network, which is
necessary in
order to support and maintain the fiber network, then there
is none. I
do feel it would be much better, more efficient, and more
economical to
have the network operated and maintained by a commercial enterprise than a government entity. As to the cost of your Internet
connection,
it sounds like a good deal to me and I did not want to imply
otherwise.
Jim



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Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 4:33 PM
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Jim Henry wrote:

I'd be willing to bet you are not counting the taxes you and your fellow subjects pay for that municipal fiber network as
part of that
$40/month.
Does every ISP in Manhattan dig the streets to lay down their own
cables? How does that work in this era of telecom deregulation? Since city streets (and street lights) are a municipal monopoly, it makes sense to have one municipal ditch with one municipal fiber infrastructre, where telcos and ISPs can rent fibers or bandwidth at or near cost price.

My ISP is a private corporation that pays for using the municipal
fiber, and their money comes from my $40/month. I don't see where any subsidy would come in.

You're probably right that I pay a higher income tax, and I'm not
defending that. I'm just curious how you could help me to find a more efficient broadband solution than the one I already have. Where and how do you live and what do you pay for broadband?


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