That's not the case at all. Maybe I'm not being clear.
However the People who ARE participating in this event, already distrust and
dislike NYS Government as it is. Again, it's all about perception and as such
wording is important. These kind of typos will harden those who support these
events to respond as actively as many birders have.
The kind of legislation that is proposed will be a major up hill battle.
Sadly, Without an upstate senator to co-sponsor the legislation, it is likely
dead.
Will RaupAlbany, NY
From: spide...@stny.rr.com
To: stella.mille...@yahoo.com
CC: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press release
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 15:36:22 -0400
Please don't lump all of us who live "upstate" together.
There are a number of us here in the Southern Tier and Finger Lakes regions
that
are appalled with crow hunts. It is killing for the sake of killing, not to put
food on the table. Even though crows may steal and eat the young of other
beloved birds, crows have their own predators to hopefully balance that
out. I don't believe we need to be the ones to hunt them. I love
crows!
So, please don't offend those who are trying to
help.
Colleen
----- Original Message -----
From:
Stella Miller
To: Will Raup ; Linda
Orkin
Cc: NYSBIRDS-L
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:21
PM
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Press
release
Hi,
I
had to run out today right after the press release was sent to me. I did
not get a chance to read it until now and see the error. Will is
absolutely correct, folks upstate will not blink an eye at this. Why
should they? As Will points out, it is legal by state DEC laws and that is
what matters to them. It is the two different worlds of "downstate" and
"upstate"! I will reach out to FoA, as they have the direct line to the
Senator's office, and ask if he can amend the release.
Thanks
for bringing this to attention!
Stella
"Conservation is sometimes
perceived as stopping everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher
esteem than people. It is up to science to spread the understanding that the
choice is not between wild places or people, it is between a rich or an
impoverished existence for Man." Thomas Lovejoy
From:
Will Raup <hoaryredp...@hotmail.com>
To: Linda Orkin
<wingmagi...@gmail.com>
Cc: Stella Miller
<stella.mille...@yahoo.com>; NYSBIRDS-L <nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>
Sent: Thursday, March 20,
2014 2:57 PM
Subject: RE:
[nysbirds-l] Press release
Because the people who live where this hunt is taking place, will
ignore it. They don't care what a Senator from Queens or New York City
DEC has to say about any of it. It's legal by New York STATE DEC laws.
It's about perception. If the Senator had stated they
consulted New York State DEC in the release would carry more
wait. Trust me, having grown up in that area and know many who still
live there, this statement is junk and will be laughed off because of that
one
line. And I'm being serious.
Will Raup
Albany, NY
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:37:03 -0400Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l]
Press releaseFrom: wingmagic16@gmail.comTo:
hoaryredpoll@hotmail.comCC: stella.mille...@yahoo.com;
nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
The senator did not use NYC DEC, the press release did, and only to say
that the NYC DEC says this is legal. Why would anyone stop reading after
that? The senator refers only to NYS.Linda
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Will
Raup <hoaryredp...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Sadly the fact the Senator used the term "New York City DEC",
means it will be ignored. It should be edited immediately to say New
York State DEC, otherwise this will be dismissed by upstate residents who
will just view this as another "City" politician who has no idea what is
going on north of New York City.
The statement may seem minor, but many will stop reading after that
particular sentence. And you can bet the opposition will use that to
their advantage.
Will Raup
Albany, NY
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 07:11:02 -0700From:
stella.miller63@yahoo.comSubject: [nysbirds-l] Press releaseTo:
NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu
Attached is the press release regarding the
legislation.
Thanks,
Stella
"Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping
everything cold, as holding whooping cranes in higher esteem than people.
It
is up to science to spread the understanding that the choice is not between
wild places or people, it is between a rich or an impoverished existence
for
Man." Thomas Lovejoy
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