Has anyone identified the problem that this vote has been identified to fix?
If the vote is to cut back on the personal attacks that have been appearing from non-members, am I safe to assume that the price of personal attacks is set at approx. $40/yr. Does membership in a club give you the right to make personal attacks on the listserv? It would seem that is what is being implied here. Again, the problem has not been identified, so it's hard to understand what this solution is set to remedy. I would certainly vote to keep the list open, as I would hope that the club is trying to promote cycling in general and to provide a means for providing information. If I want to know which store in Ottawa carries a particular part, or who has had GPS on a bike experience, I really don't care if the person who provides the information is an OBC card carrying member. If someone posts information about the parkway being open or closed for the season, I don't care if they know how to spell OBC. If there is a post about a website up that a non obc member put up about their rideau lakes experience, do I care who really posted this information. Yes, membership does have it's privileges, but censorship wasn't in the last notice that I got with my OBC renewal. Now, a few questions come to mind here with regards to the original email. 1) Has there been an issue addressed with the integrity of the information being posted? Have people really been posting incorrect dates for the next Rideau Lakes to deter others from going. I would think that postings such as the date for the next Rideau Lakes, or the next Learn to Race clinic would be beneficial to a larger audience than just those who paid up this year. Or are we trying to hide that type of information? 2) Who will decide at the club office or at this email address whether a posting from a non member warrants posting? This now puts added responsibility and duties on individuals to monitor this. Do those individuals realize this impact? 3) If new subscribers will need to be approved by the list administrator, what is the criteria for being approved for the list? 4) How are posters being asked to identify themselves? Do they need to submit a OBC membership number with their posting? I'm all for sorting the wheat from the chaff and getting the signal to noise ratio a little higher in this list, but let's first understand what these dictated changes are meant to address. There have been some very good points made in response to these changes, and I would suggest that the board rethink its position and make it based upon the membership that it is trying to represent, not because a non member has a different opinion than someone on the board. Am I an obc member? If you ask me if I'm a member of the OBC, I'll deny my affiliation with the club, but I've been paying dues for over 12 years. regards, Greg Goodwin Cyclist OBC List Manager wrote: > > Obc list group New Rules > > The board of directors voted in favor of a proposal to make > the OBC news list server members only > > The idea is to insure that posted content is of interest to > club members, not just the public at large; as well as > ensuring the integrity of the information posted. > > -Non-members can still read the list on the topica server. > -Non-members wishing to send a note of interest to the club > can do so via this email address or the OBC office, it will > then be decided if it is of interest to club members. > -New subscribers will have to be approved by a list > administrator. > -As a courtesy, posters are asked to identify themselves or > risk removal from the list. > > Over the next while non-member address will be removed, as > well as any generic account that cannot be identified. > If your account is deleted in error, please re-subscribe to > the address below and include identifying information. > > Dave Hall Director at large, obc list manger. > > Links: > Web link to news list http://www.topica.com/lists/obc > Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > “membership has its privileges” > > __________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com > > ------------------------------------------------- > For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 > Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb > Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- For list help, please send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 230-1064 Website: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------- ==^^=============================================================== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===============================================================
