Balik aja ke jaman dulu, pake emas. Dah jalan ribuan tahun gak ada masalah.
Dollar itu cuma ilusi sesaat™ Salam, Cumi, Cuma Mimpi On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:25 PM, datasahamku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > makanya Mbah, dulu Mahattir punya ide agar ASEAN utk ekspor-impornya > pakai mata uang lokal aja, ga pakai dollar...mungkin krn dia doktor > jadi tahu > Iran juga usul agar transaksi jual beli minyak ga pakai dollar...tp > arab saudi ga mau :(( > > selain MONAS, Senayan juga belum di hitung Mbah hehehe... > kayanya Mbah cocok juga jd penasehat Gubernur BI...:D > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Islandia bangkrut karena devisanya nol atau engga punya dollar >> buat bayar import. Kalo devisa BI yg sekitar 50 miliar dollar >> habis maka kita tidak bisa bayar utang luar negri karena kita >> engga bisa bayar pake rupiah. >> >> Jadi bangkrut disini adalah bangkrut dari segi valuta asing. >> Tapi Amerika punya utang luar negri yang begitu gede ENGGA AKAN >> pernah bangkrut karena dollar adalah mata uang negara Amerika, >> tinggal nyetak doang... >> >> Jadi untuk bayar utang, suatu negara harus mengexport barang, >> menarik invetasi atau bikin pinjaman valas yg baru. >> >> Coba kita bayangin devisa BI yg 50 miliar dollar itu senilai >> ama apa ?. >> - Kita ambil harga tanah dipusat kota = 10j/m2. >> - 50 miliar dollar ini dapet berapa m2 ? >> - 50 miliar x kurs 10.000/ 10 juta = 500.000 m2 = >> atau tanah yg luasnya = 700m x 700m = 0,7km x 0,7km, tanah ini >> masih lebih kecil dari luas MONAS.. >> >> Jadi devisa BI masih JAUH lebih kecil dari harga tanah Monas, >> karena tanah MONAS bisa laku 50j/m2. Jadi kalo Monas dijual ama >> asing kita bakal dapet devisa mungkin 200 miliar dollar. (ini >> cuman buat ilustrasi doang yah, jangan diprotes) >> >> Jadi kalo devisa BI habis, kita dinyatain bangkrut padahal >> tanah RI itu ada dari Sabang ampe Meroke, itu tanahnya doang >> belum isinya. Tapi gara gara bayar import dan utang harus pake >> USD, maka tiap negara diseluruh dunia harus berusaha mendapatkan >> USD. >> >> Dunia memang maenan orang Amerika, udah kebawa sengsara akibat >> ulah orang Amerika yg bikin krisis, masih mau nurut lagi ngumpulin >> dollar... hehehe... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase >> <chase.vincent@> wrote: >> > >> > feeling sy bakal lama neh >> > kemaren bangun tidur denger berita dr cnn, >> > >> > ada berita kalo iceland bakrupt. dulu mulainya dr asian financial >> krisis, ini jgn sampe mo dimulai european financial crisis >> > >> > Iceland goes bankrupt Posted by: Michael Mandel on October >> 10 That's an amazing sentence: Iceland goes bankrupt. But >> that's exactly what happened yesterday (see BW piece here. See NY >> Times piece here). That's a clear sign that the global financial >> crisis is entering a new and vastly more dangerous phase, where we >> are paying the price of the lack of a global financial regulator and >> global central bank. >> > What `bankrupt' means is just that: The country cannot pay back >> its external debts, and the Icelandic currency, the krona, has become >> essentially valueless in the rest of the world. That means the >> country can no longer pay for imports. >> > The Icelandic problems have nothing to do directly with American >> real estate. As Kerry Capell of BW writes: >> > >> > >> > With the privatization of the banking sector, completed in 2000, >> Iceland's banks used substantial wholesale funding to finance their >> entry into the local mortgage market and acquire foreign financial >> firms, mainly in Britain and Scandinavia…In just five years, the >> banks went from being almost entirely domestic lenders to becoming >> major international financial intermediaries. In 2000, says Richard >> Portes, a professor of economics at London Business School, two- >> thirds of their financing came from domestic sources and one-third >> from abroad. More recently—until the crisis hit—that ratio was >> reversed. But as wholesale funding markets seized up, Iceland's banks >> started to collapse under a mountain of foreign debt. What's worse, >> with Iceland sitting outside the major currency trading blocs, there >> may be no one with the incentive or ability to save it. The country >> is looking for loans from the IMF and from Russia. But the United >> Kingdom is actually threatening to sue Iceland to >> > get back money. >> > Where does the crisis go next? Most exposed are countries with >> large amounts of external debt relative to the size of their economy. >> A quick calculation suggests that by this measure, the U.S. is >> relatively well off, with external debt about equal to GDP. Japan's >> external debt is about 40-50% of GDP, as is Canada's (these numbers >> may change as I refine my calculations). Italy is at about 100%, and >> Germany and France are in the 140-150% range. >> > From this perspective, the U.S.—with its external debt mostly in >> dollars—looks like a bastion of stability. The euro zone has some >> weaknesses—Belgium and the Netherlands have uncomfortably high debt >> levels, and Ireland is extremely high. But there is a political >> framework in place which should allow political leaders to take >> effective action if they want. >> > The biggest dangers are for the UK and Switzerland. These >> countries, although much bigger than Iceland, are major financial >> intermediaries with big external debts. What's more, they are outside >> the major currency blocs, with debt denominated in foreign >> currencies. That means if their currency starts to devalue, their >> debts will become more and more onerous. >> > And now we are in very tricky waters, which are looking >> uncomfortably like the Great Depression. The major players are the >> U.S., the Eurozone, Japan, and China. The question is: Will they act >> collectively, or will they engage beggar-thy neighbor policies? >> > More later on this.? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) >> > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | >> Switch format to Traditional >> > Visit Your Group | Yahoo! >> Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe >> > >> > >> > Recent Activity >> > >> > 3 >> > New Members >> > >> > 1 >> > New Files >> > >> > Visit Your Group >> > >> Give Back >> > Yahoo! for Good >> > Get inspired >> > by a good cause. >> > >> > Y! Toolbar >> > Get it Free! >> > easy 1-click access >> > to your groups. >> > >> > Yahoo! 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