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On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:25 PM, datasahamku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> makanya Mbah, dulu Mahattir punya ide agar ASEAN utk ekspor-impornya
> pakai mata uang lokal aja, ga pakai dollar...mungkin krn dia doktor
> jadi tahu
> Iran juga usul agar transaksi jual beli minyak ga pakai dollar...tp
> arab saudi ga mau :((
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> selain MONAS, Senayan juga belum di hitung Mbah hehehe...
> kayanya Mbah cocok juga jd penasehat Gubernur BI...:D
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> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Islandia bangkrut karena devisanya nol atau engga punya dollar
>> buat bayar import. Kalo devisa BI yg sekitar 50 miliar dollar
>> habis maka kita tidak bisa bayar utang luar negri karena kita
>> engga bisa bayar pake rupiah.
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>> Jadi bangkrut disini adalah bangkrut dari segi valuta asing.
>> Tapi Amerika punya utang luar negri yang begitu gede ENGGA AKAN
>> pernah bangkrut karena dollar adalah mata uang negara Amerika,
>> tinggal nyetak doang...
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>> Jadi untuk bayar utang, suatu negara harus mengexport barang,
>> menarik invetasi atau bikin pinjaman valas yg baru.
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>> Coba kita bayangin devisa BI yg 50 miliar dollar itu senilai
>> ama apa ?.
>> - Kita ambil harga tanah dipusat kota = 10j/m2.
>> - 50 miliar dollar ini dapet berapa m2 ?
>> - 50 miliar x kurs 10.000/ 10 juta = 500.000 m2 =
>>   atau tanah yg luasnya = 700m x 700m = 0,7km x 0,7km, tanah ini
>>   masih lebih kecil dari luas MONAS..
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>> Jadi devisa BI masih JAUH lebih kecil dari harga tanah Monas,
>> karena tanah MONAS bisa laku 50j/m2. Jadi kalo Monas dijual ama
>> asing kita bakal dapet devisa mungkin 200 miliar dollar. (ini
>> cuman buat ilustrasi doang yah, jangan diprotes)
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>> Jadi kalo devisa BI habis, kita dinyatain bangkrut padahal
>> tanah RI itu ada dari Sabang ampe Meroke, itu tanahnya doang
>> belum isinya. Tapi gara gara bayar import dan utang harus pake
>> USD, maka tiap negara diseluruh dunia harus berusaha mendapatkan
>> USD.
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>> Dunia memang maenan orang Amerika, udah kebawa sengsara akibat
>> ulah orang Amerika yg bikin krisis, masih mau nurut lagi ngumpulin
>> dollar... hehehe...
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>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase
>> <chase.vincent@> wrote:
>> >
>> > feeling sy bakal lama neh
>> > kemaren bangun tidur denger berita dr cnn,
>> >
>> > ada berita kalo iceland bakrupt. dulu mulainya dr asian financial
>> krisis, ini jgn sampe mo dimulai european financial crisis
>> >
>> > Iceland goes bankrupt Posted by: Michael Mandel on October
>> 10        That's an amazing sentence: Iceland goes bankrupt. But
>> that's exactly what happened yesterday (see BW piece here. See NY
>> Times piece here). That's a clear sign that the global financial
>> crisis is entering a new and vastly more dangerous phase, where we
>> are paying the price of the lack of a global financial regulator and
>> global central bank.
>> >   What `bankrupt' means is just that: The country cannot pay back
>> its external debts, and the Icelandic currency, the krona, has become
>> essentially valueless in the rest of the world. That means the
>> country can no longer pay for imports.
>> >   The Icelandic problems have nothing to do directly with American
>> real estate. As Kerry Capell of BW writes:
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>> >  With the privatization of the banking sector, completed in 2000,
>> Iceland's banks used substantial wholesale funding to finance their
>> entry into the local mortgage market and acquire foreign financial
>> firms, mainly in Britain and Scandinavia…In just five years, the
>> banks went from being almost entirely domestic lenders to becoming
>> major international financial intermediaries. In 2000, says Richard
>> Portes, a professor of economics at London Business School, two-
>> thirds of their financing came from domestic sources and one-third
>> from abroad. More recently—until the crisis hit—that ratio was
>> reversed. But as wholesale funding markets seized up, Iceland's banks
>> started to collapse under a mountain of foreign debt.   What's worse,
>> with Iceland sitting outside the major currency trading blocs, there
>> may be no one with the incentive or ability to save it. The country
>> is looking for loans from the IMF and from Russia. But the United
>> Kingdom is actually threatening to sue Iceland to
>> >  get back money.
>> >   Where does the crisis go next? Most exposed are countries with
>> large amounts of external debt relative to the size of their economy.
>> A quick calculation suggests that by this measure, the U.S. is
>> relatively well off, with external debt about equal to GDP. Japan's
>> external debt is about 40-50% of GDP, as is Canada's (these numbers
>> may change as I refine my calculations). Italy is at about 100%, and
>> Germany and France are in the 140-150% range.
>> >   From this perspective, the U.S.—with its external debt mostly in
>> dollars—looks like a bastion of stability. The euro zone has some
>> weaknesses—Belgium and the Netherlands have uncomfortably high debt
>> levels, and Ireland is extremely high. But there is a political
>> framework in place which should allow political leaders to take
>> effective action if they want.
>> >   The biggest dangers are for the UK and Switzerland. These
>> countries, although much bigger than Iceland, are major financial
>> intermediaries with big external debts. What's more, they are outside
>> the major currency blocs, with debt denominated in foreign
>> currencies. That means if their currency starts to devalue, their
>> debts will become more and more onerous.
>> >   And now we are in very tricky waters, which are looking
>> uncomfortably like the Great Depression. The major players are the
>> U.S., the Eurozone, Japan, and China. The question is: Will they act
>> collectively, or will they engage beggar-thy neighbor policies?
>> >   More later on this.?
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