makanya Mbah, dulu Mahattir punya ide agar ASEAN utk ekspor-impornya pakai mata uang lokal aja, ga pakai dollar...mungkin krn dia doktor jadi tahu Iran juga usul agar transaksi jual beli minyak ga pakai dollar...tp arab saudi ga mau :((
selain MONAS, Senayan juga belum di hitung Mbah hehehe... kayanya Mbah cocok juga jd penasehat Gubernur BI...:D --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Islandia bangkrut karena devisanya nol atau engga punya dollar > buat bayar import. Kalo devisa BI yg sekitar 50 miliar dollar > habis maka kita tidak bisa bayar utang luar negri karena kita > engga bisa bayar pake rupiah. > > Jadi bangkrut disini adalah bangkrut dari segi valuta asing. > Tapi Amerika punya utang luar negri yang begitu gede ENGGA AKAN > pernah bangkrut karena dollar adalah mata uang negara Amerika, > tinggal nyetak doang... > > Jadi untuk bayar utang, suatu negara harus mengexport barang, > menarik invetasi atau bikin pinjaman valas yg baru. > > Coba kita bayangin devisa BI yg 50 miliar dollar itu senilai > ama apa ?. > - Kita ambil harga tanah dipusat kota = 10j/m2. > - 50 miliar dollar ini dapet berapa m2 ? > - 50 miliar x kurs 10.000/ 10 juta = 500.000 m2 = > atau tanah yg luasnya = 700m x 700m = 0,7km x 0,7km, tanah ini > masih lebih kecil dari luas MONAS.. > > Jadi devisa BI masih JAUH lebih kecil dari harga tanah Monas, > karena tanah MONAS bisa laku 50j/m2. Jadi kalo Monas dijual ama > asing kita bakal dapet devisa mungkin 200 miliar dollar. (ini > cuman buat ilustrasi doang yah, jangan diprotes) > > Jadi kalo devisa BI habis, kita dinyatain bangkrut padahal > tanah RI itu ada dari Sabang ampe Meroke, itu tanahnya doang > belum isinya. Tapi gara gara bayar import dan utang harus pake > USD, maka tiap negara diseluruh dunia harus berusaha mendapatkan > USD. > > Dunia memang maenan orang Amerika, udah kebawa sengsara akibat > ulah orang Amerika yg bikin krisis, masih mau nurut lagi ngumpulin > dollar... hehehe... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase > <chase.vincent@> wrote: > > > > feeling sy bakal lama neh > > kemaren bangun tidur denger berita dr cnn, > > > > ada berita kalo iceland bakrupt. dulu mulainya dr asian financial > krisis, ini jgn sampe mo dimulai european financial crisis > > > > Iceland goes bankrupt Posted by: Michael Mandel on October > 10 That's an amazing sentence: Iceland goes bankrupt. But > that's exactly what happened yesterday (see BW piece here. See NY > Times piece here). That's a clear sign that the global financial > crisis is entering a new and vastly more dangerous phase, where we > are paying the price of the lack of a global financial regulator and > global central bank. > > What `bankrupt' means is just that: The country cannot pay back > its external debts, and the Icelandic currency, the krona, has become > essentially valueless in the rest of the world. That means the > country can no longer pay for imports. > > The Icelandic problems have nothing to do directly with American > real estate. As Kerry Capell of BW writes: > > > > > > With the privatization of the banking sector, completed in 2000, > Iceland's banks used substantial wholesale funding to finance their > entry into the local mortgage market and acquire foreign financial > firms, mainly in Britain and Scandinavia In just five years, the > banks went from being almost entirely domestic lenders to becoming > major international financial intermediaries. In 2000, says Richard > Portes, a professor of economics at London Business School, two- > thirds of their financing came from domestic sources and one-third > from abroad. More recentlyuntil the crisis hitthat ratio was > reversed. But as wholesale funding markets seized up, Iceland's banks > started to collapse under a mountain of foreign debt. What's worse, > with Iceland sitting outside the major currency trading blocs, there > may be no one with the incentive or ability to save it. The country > is looking for loans from the IMF and from Russia. But the United > Kingdom is actually threatening to sue Iceland to > > get back money. > > Where does the crisis go next? Most exposed are countries with > large amounts of external debt relative to the size of their economy. > A quick calculation suggests that by this measure, the U.S. is > relatively well off, with external debt about equal to GDP. Japan's > external debt is about 40-50% of GDP, as is Canada's (these numbers > may change as I refine my calculations). Italy is at about 100%, and > Germany and France are in the 140-150% range. > > From this perspective, the U.S.with its external debt mostly in > dollarslooks like a bastion of stability. The euro zone has some > weaknessesBelgium and the Netherlands have uncomfortably high debt > levels, and Ireland is extremely high. But there is a political > framework in place which should allow political leaders to take > effective action if they want. > > The biggest dangers are for the UK and Switzerland. These > countries, although much bigger than Iceland, are major financial > intermediaries with big external debts. What's more, they are outside > the major currency blocs, with debt denominated in foreign > currencies. That means if their currency starts to devalue, their > debts will become more and more onerous. > > And now we are in very tricky waters, which are looking > uncomfortably like the Great Depression. The major players are the > U.S., the Eurozone, Japan, and China. The question is: Will they act > collectively, or will they engage beggar-thy neighbor policies? > > More later on this.? > > > > > > > > > > > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) > > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | > Switch format to Traditional > > Visit Your Group | Yahoo! > Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > > > > > > Recent Activity > > > > 3 > > New Members > > > > 1 > > New Files > > > > Visit Your Group > > > Give Back > > Yahoo! for Good > > Get inspired > > by a good cause. > > > > Y! Toolbar > > Get it Free! > > easy 1-click access > > to your groups. > > > > Yahoo! Groups > > Start a group > > in 3 easy steps. > > Connect with others. > > > > > > > > . > > >