On 4/19/12, Roberto Galoppini <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Alexandro Colorado <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 4/19/12, Jürgen Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On 4/19/12 9:41 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >>>> On 4/19/12, Rob Weir<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:07 AM, Alexandro Colorado<[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> On 4/18/12, Rob Weir<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Roberto >>>>>>> Galoppini<[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Alexandro Colorado<[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/17/12, drew<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 11:15 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> My point is that we are going to be bombarded with support >>>>>>>>>>> questions, >>>>>>>>>>> regardless if we choose not to, is not up to us. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sure you can redirect them to the ML/Forums, but that would be >>>>>>>>>>> done >>>>>>>>>>> 99% of the time, which will frustrate the user and the handlers. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That's the point I wanted to make based on the experience of >>>>>>>>>>> handling >>>>>>>>>>> these accounts in the past. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Like I said, I am more concern with solving the issue of >>>>>>>>>>> operation >>>>>>>>>>> first than figuring out which new accounts to create and why/why >>>>>>>>>>> not. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, I am not advocating removal of any existing accounts. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am sure you didn't. That is not what I said. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Alexandro and all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Will @openofficeorg be under the Apache OpenOffice control? If this >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> case, I wonder if it wouldn't be better to use that one instead of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>> ones. In case I'd recommend to upload the new logo, as well as to >>>>>>>> update >>>>>>>> the short description. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We've tried to contact the owner of @openofficeorg, to discuss >>>>>>> putting >>>>>>> this account under PPMC control. We have no had success with that. >>>>>>> So >>>>>>> we're going forward with a new account. It should be easy and quick >>>>>>> to get a similar number of followers once we promote it on the >>>>>>> homepage. >>>>>> >>>>>> Who decided this? you? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Decided what? That it would be easy to get a similar number of >>>>> followers? That is purely my estimate, based on the fact that we've >>>>> managed to get almost 8000 users to sign up on the ooo-announce list. >>>>> Following someone on Twitter should is much easier than signing up on >>>>> an ezmlm list. So if we have 8000 there, getting more than 1500 >>>>> Twitter followers should not be hard. >>>> >>>> So you are deciding things? When you said 'we're going forward' you >>>> mean you are moving forward. >>> >>> I think you misunderstand something here. Rob decided not on his own, I >> >> No way to prove that. >> >>> think it was the outcome of this longer discussion. and if the owner of >>> the existing account doesn't reply it is natural to move forward with a >>> new one, isn't it? >>> >>> What is your concern here? >> >> Rob contacted me on the matter, and I reply back into the thread and >> now he said that nobody replied and refer to his decisions as we, when >> he is the one alone making how things are shaping. > > Alexandro are you actually the maintainer of the @openofficeorg account?
yes I am. > > If this is the case, guess we could go in a different direction, if > not I guess the only option we have at this time is to create another > one. My point is exactly that, Rob did contact me about the issue then said nobody reply to him. > > Roberto > >> >>> >>> Juergen >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What I am advocating is the creation of a set un-ambiguous >>>>>>>>>> official >>>>>>>>>> Apache OpenOffice project accounts. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> what will happened when the unambigous official account get support >>>>>>>>> inquiries everyday? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I had a look at the flow of questions and answers, it seems >>>>>>>> manageable >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I believe that there is work needing to be done to establish the >>>>>>>>>> Apache >>>>>>>>>> OpenOffice identity. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It seems to me that this is an appropriate step to further that >>>>>>>>>> goal. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here my list of recommendations: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Rebranding existing accounts (see above) >>>>>>>> 2. Spend some time to choose (few) people to follow (maybe using >>>>>>>> keywords >>>>>>>> like office suites, odf, open standards, etc). >>>>>>>> As of today only Alexandro and Rob are followed by >>>>>>>> @openofficeorg, >>>>>>>> think we should spend some time to choose people to follow, so that >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> could be easier to engage in conversations using tools like >>>>>>>> googlefinder, >>>>>>>> Listorious, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is an interesting point. Many people decide who to follow based >>>>>>> on recommendation engines that look at existing following patterns in >>>>>>> Twitter. So having a good set of mutual followers will help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3. Start simple. So announcements, news from our blog, new >>>>>>>> committers, >>>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>>> 4. Be consistent. Two message a day could be a good starting point, >>>>>>>> maybe >>>>>>>> once a day over the week-ends. >>>>>>>> 5. Don't follow back just for the sake of it, it's wise to follow >>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>> people we might want to engage with. >>>>>>>> 6. Start conversations with people we know, related projects, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For example, we might congratulate other OSS projects,Apache and >>>>>>> external, that make new releases, if these would be of interest to >>>>>>> our >>>>>>> followers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 7. Establish a clear policy about language style, but especially for >>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> handle "crises" >>>>>>>> 8. Use a tool to measure our improvements, both Klout and PeerIndex >>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> useful in this respect. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Roberto >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sure I agree, but my point is really about how to do it based on >>>>>>>>> previous issues. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> //drew >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 4/17/12, drew<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 11:02 -0500, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this provide a bit of confussion on the user end. Also >>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>> recognize the struggle of keeping the accounts active. Making >>>>>>>>> multiple >>>>>>>>>>>>> accounts will increase the job. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The blog itself has not been updated that frequently, and I am >>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>> sure if this will increase as we get a release. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of the use of the accounts on my experience is >>>>>>>>>>>>> support-like >>>>>>>>>>>>> issues. So relying on one single point of contact is also >>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty >>>>>>>>>>>>> bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Having an AOO-Support and AOO-Annoucement is equally not good >>>>>>>>> strategy >>>>>>>>>>>>> in my account because people will tend to stick to the account >>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> they see crossing their path. (Just because we structure one >>>>>>>>>>>>> way, >>>>>>>>>>>>> doesnt mean users will do so). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the issues of openofficeorg accounts both on Facebook >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>>>>>>> plus and twitter had been the issue of keeping the content >>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> also interacting as a group as opposed to an individual. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I would argue to stop taking liberties on creating new accounts >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> instead take liberties on designing a good strategy to solve >>>>>>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> these basic issues that tackle these problems. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So far I am not even sure how these accounts could be handle by >>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure and what are the requirements. Rob mention that >>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure should manage these, but I am also not sure how >>>>>>>>>>>>> long >>>>>>>>>>>>> will they take to proxy the messages specially when it comes to >>>>>>>>>>>>> support and we get 100 inquiries a day (for example). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alexandro, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Good points - I would simply emphasize that I am not at all >>>>>>>>>>>> saying >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>> the apacheoo accounts should be about support - not at all. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The ApacheOO accounts (lets focus on just twitter and identi.ca) >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> moment - would be used specifically as a broadcast mechanism. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> How I as envisioning it, at least. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> //drew >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/17/12, drew<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 00:50 -0400, drew wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 18:25 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:08 PM, drew >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-04-11 at 17:43 +0200, Roberto Galoppini >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Rob Weir< >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Social media outreach, via Twitter, Facebook, Google+, >>>>>>>>> etc., >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important part of outreach to users. Although the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community is firmly rooted in mailing lists, we know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> users >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live in a different world. If we want to engage with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use the tools that they use, and communicate the way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communicate. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that we're very close to the AOO 3.4 release, I'd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a project Twitter account, under PPMC control. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By "under PPMC control" I mean something similar to how >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> treat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project blog: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Any PPMC member, upon request, can have write >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> access. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- We can use the project's official logo in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conjunction >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- We would promote the account on our project's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- We would generally treat the account as an official >>>>>>>>> voice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project, not as a personal account. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying we need to pre-review and and approve >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "tweet" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sent through the account. But we should set >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expectations >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account is to be used in a professional fashion, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upholding >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> standards of this project, not used to settle personal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disputes, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> promote personal business, etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An option could be to agree on a simple guideline for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, >>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone knows how to handle it. I'm thinking not only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> style of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> communication, but also about who to follow, how to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engage >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversations, improve outreach, etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are already several Twitter accounts that use the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OOo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trademarks: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/#!/openofficeorg --- This account >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1571 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> followers. But it is not sharing any AOO status, no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blog >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts, announcements, etc. Who controls it? Are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we able to get it under PPMC control? Can we rebrand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenOffice? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That could be a good starting point, I think. It seems >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only one who can send DM to the actual owner's account. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/#!/openoffice -- This account seems >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unused. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd try to get that it too. It's better than ApacheOO, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to put the full name in the Settings> Account> Name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Roberto, Rob >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just did so now, and followed up with an email to the >>>>>>>>> account >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contact >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the whois database for the domain listed, the linked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sub-domain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been dead for a while IIRC, though the main site is alive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> report back when (or if) I hear anything back. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Drew, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It has been 5 days now. Have you received any response from >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> domain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owner? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No nothing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If not, I'm ready to go with a new account: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/apacheoo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a good account name for an announcement stream, even with the >>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy all, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wanted to follow up on this. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I think about, IMO, this is a good moment to use a new >>>>>>>>> account(s) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a more formal, account of record if you will, for the project; >>>>>>>>> Apache >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenOffice. The use of the apache in the account name makes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sense to me for this purpose. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The flip side of that then would be to treat the existing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> social >>>>>>>>>>>>>> media >>>>>>>>>>>>>> account as more community, less formal, voices. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyawy - the apacheoo does get my vote for an appropriate >>>>>>>>>>>>>> name, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> project account. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I took the liberty then to register the same name with the >>>>>>>>> identi.ca >>>>>>>>>>>>>> network. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://identi.ca/apacheoo >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO identi.ca, which has a smaller user base then twitter, >>>>>>>>> represents >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> important target group to the project. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The two accounts, if we use them for this, should be tied >>>>>>>>>>>>>> together. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Certainly at the level that a post to the identi.ca should >>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatically >>>>>>>>>>>>>> broadcast to the twitter network. (easy to do) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A couple of thoughts on 'formal account of record': >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would recommend that the accounts not be used to follow lots >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> accounts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The accounts should not be used to re-tweet others messages. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The accounts should _not_ be used for auto-generated scheduled >>>>>>>>>>>>>> postings. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The accounts do need to be used on a regular basis to build up >>>>>>>>>>>>>> followers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ability to 'follow' the accounts needs to be easily done >>>>>>>>>>>>>> within >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> main >>>>>>>>>>>>>> web infrastructure and there should be some naturally well >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fitting >>>>>>>>>>>>>> locations where that can be done. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone using the accounts should remember to keep the message >>>>>>>>> focused >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the project. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, that's a good spot to shutup huh :-) and let folks add >>>>>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wisdom here. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what you think - Use the new ApacheOO accounts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> //drew >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //drew >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have it configured with the BirdHerd service, so up to 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PPMC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> members will be able send tweets via that account. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Rob >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //drew >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Alexandro Colorado >>>>>>>>> OpenOffice.org Español >>>>>>>>> http://es.openoffice.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ==== >>>>>>>> This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) >>>>>>>> above. >>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>> may contain confidential and privileged information. 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