On 4/19/12, Roberto Galoppini <rgalopp...@geek.net> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@apache.org> wrote: >> On 4/19/12, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>>> On 4/19/12, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Ian Lynch <ianrly...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> On 19 April 2012 11:34, Alexandro Colorado <j...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What is your concern here? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Rob contacted me on the matter, and I reply back into the thread >>>>>>> >> and >>>>>>> >> now he said that nobody replied and refer to his decisions as we, >>>>>>> >> when >>>>>>> >> he is the one alone making how things are shaping. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Alexandro are you actually the maintainer of the @openofficeorg >>>>>>> > account? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> yes I am. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > If this is the case, guess we could go in a different direction, if >>>>>>> > not I guess the only option we have at this time is to create >>>>>>> > another >>>>>>> > one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My point is exactly that, Rob did contact me about the issue then >>>>>>> said >>>>>>> nobody reply to him. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Seems @openofficeorg has 1500 followers already. Unless there is >>>>>> another >>>>>> twitter account with more followers, I can't see much logic in not >>>>>> simply >>>>>> building around this account. Just need some strategic tweets so we >>>>>> can >>>>>> get >>>>>> followers to retweet and get more followers. If Alexandro is willing >>>>>> to >>>>>> maintain this as a PPMC member, what is the problem? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have asked Alexandro many times over several months whether he would >>>>> put that Twitter account under the control of the AOO PPMC, rather >>>>> than treat it as his personal account. He has not agreed to do >>>>> this,so I've made a new account which I am putting under PPMC control. >>>>> We've had this discussion, in open, on this list. >>>> >>>> I dont remember having this discussion with you. So what are you talking >>>> about? >>>> >>> >>> In this thread, on this list and several times. >>> >>> For example, 8 days ago I wrote: >>> >>> "Hi Alexandro -- Is the above your Twitter account? If so, would you >>> be willing to contribute it to the AOO project, so we can rebrand it >>> and allow other PMC members to have write access to it, etc.?" >>> >>> You didn't seem to understand that, perhaps due to my poor >>> description. So I described in more detail what I was looking for: >>> >>> "By "contribute to the AOO project" I mean give control to the AOO PMC, >>> so we can use it as a project-wide account, similar to how we treat >>> the blog: >>> >>> -- Any PPMC member, upon request, can have write access. >>> >>> -- We can use the project's official logo in conjunction with the >>> account. >>> >>> -- We would promote the account on our project's website. >>> >>> -- We would generally treat the account as an official voice of the >>> project, not as a personal account." >>> >>> Again, no response. Instead of giving a straightforward yes or no >>> answer, you changed the subject to debating support questions via >>> Twitter. >> >> Which means that I want to discuss this first before moving the >> account or creating a new one. >> >>> >>> Is the question I'm asking clear? >>> >>>>> >>>>> I've done the work. I've done the research. I've worked this through >>>>> the community. I've created the account. I've applied the Apache >>>>> branding. I've signed up other PPMC members to have access to this >>>>> account. I've updated the website. >>>> >>>> Then what you mean with 'I never recieved a reply'. Rob you are acting >>>> on your own, and that is really not good for the community not your >>>> reputation of power grabber. Is very skewed the way you reffer >>>> yourself as 'we', when is only you acting on your own behalf. >>>> >>> >>> I'm not acting on my own at all. I'm creating an account for use by >>> any PPMC member who want to volunteer to help with this Twitter >>> account. I'm discussing how we use Twitter and Google+ as a project, >> >> Great but we had that already. Why are you duplicating efforts? > > Ok, if I understand it right you're open to provide the PPMC with the > ability to control that account, that means allign the logo, > description, etc to what the PPMC thinks is appropriate, as well as to > have other PPMC members to join the club and tweet. > > Is it correct? If not please ask questions you believe went unanswered.
The point I made before, was about dealing how will structured be handled. I don't think sharing credentials is a good practice. (is like sharing root password through many users). After I understand the methodology I will contribute the account credentials to infrastructure. > I'm pretty sure people on this list are open to keep providing answers > to end-users, yet to make all necessary changes to have blog post news > as well as other news automated. Unless you see a problem with moving > in this direction, it seems like we are all on the same page. > > Roberto > >>> and I'm doing this openly on the public list. This is a topic I've >>> raised repeatedly on ooo-dev and ooo-private for several months. Now >>> that we are nearing release time for 3.4 it is time for moving forward >>> with these proposals. >>> >>> "Acting on your own" sounds more like PPMC members who sit on such >>> accounts, treat them as personal accounts, and never offer them to the >>> PPMC, and never worked with the PPMC to make the best use of them. >>> >> >> Well these accounts were long before the PPMC ever existed, and at the >> same time, were available for the group before there was a PPMC. PPMC >> can join in anytime they want. But like I mentioned, the service to >> handled this is no longer available, and we need to tie them to a new >> service. >> >> Again if all fails, you can always email me the post to be launched. I >> dont see a dealbreaker. But acting like nobody replied to you, is a >> skewed message for everybody. >> >>>>> >>>>> This is not about how many people follow the account. The question is >>>>> purely about which account can be under PPMC control and thus be the >>>>> official account. >>>> >>>> What you mean with PPMC control, I am a PPMC and I control the >>>> account. So what exactly is the issue here? Do you want to have >>>> control of the account? If so please say so and not act as a 'we' when >>>> is an 'I'. >>>> >>> >>> Having it controlled by a single PPMC member is not the same as "under >>> PPMC control". That is not what I am aiming for at all. >> >> Agreed, thats why I want more information on how can we achieved PPMC >> control and what is the timeframe. I thought that's what we were >> discussing before you claiming you never received any reply from the >> account owner. >> >>> >>>>> >>>>> -Rob >>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Ian >>>>>> >>>>>> Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) >>>>>> >>>>>> www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 >>>>>> >>>>>> The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, >>>>>> Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and >>>>>> Wales. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Alexandro Colorado >>>> OpenOffice.org Español >>>> http://es.openoffice.org >>> >> >> >> -- >> Alexandro Colorado >> OpenOffice.org Español >> http://es.openoffice.org > ==== > This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It > may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the > intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately > notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any > attachment(s) from your system. Thank you. > > -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Español http://es.openoffice.org
