On 20/06/2012 16:57, Andre Fischer wrote: > > > On 20.06.2012 17:39, Stuart Swales wrote: >> On 20/06/2012 10:28, Andre Fischer wrote: >>> On 19.06.2012 18:37, Stuart Swales wrote: >>> [...] >>>> Please don't merrily discard the English language variant >>>> dictionaries - >>>> they are really really important. >>> >>> The reason for wanting to drop some of the english extensions is not a >>> disregard for (of?) the english language and its variants. In older >>> versions of OpenOffice only the dict-en extension was included. It is >>> probably my fault that there are now five dictionary extensions. >>> >>> I added the functionality for downloading and integrating the extensions >>> into the installation sets and used the information on [1] to setup the >>> initial list of extensions to bundle. Maybe the time has come to reduce >>> that list to what is really needed. >>> >>> dict-en seems to support the variants (AU,CA,GB,US,ZA). I say "seems" >>> because I am neither a linguist nor do I have information beyond what >>> the pages in the extension repository provide (see links to english >>> dictionaries on [1]). I don't know if the separate dictionaries for >>> AU,NZ,CA, and US contain anything that is not already included in >>> dict-en. >>> >>> If you or anybody else have/has more information then please share that >>> with the rest of us so that we can make a decision based on facts >>> whether to keep or to drop the extensions. >>> >>> -Andre >>> >>> >>> [1] >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Bundled+Writing+Aids >>> >> >> I can only really speak for en_GB here - David Bartlett put in a lot of >> work to get a usable British English dictionary going in the early days >> of OpenOffice.org and life was made much easier once that was >> incorporated into the main build. Obviously 95% or so of the word list >> will be common across the English language variants but the 5% or so >> that does differ matters greatly to 'natives'. British English spelling >> does vary trivially but significantly from US English spelling. We have >> important users over here including universities, a national newspaper, >> city councils... >> >> If we were to kick out all non-en_US variants from the core build > > Please read what I wrote above. It is the dict-en.oxt dictionary that I > would like to keep, not en_US.oxt. dict-en.oxt is, as far as I know the > only one that HAS support for GB.
Thanks Andre, its clearer still when I re-read the BugZilla issues. > By the way, the upcoming 3.4.1 release will have a separate GB version. > This will have British English strings not only in the dictionary but > also in the UI. > And in the help too! > Also by the way, we have yet to decide on the set of extensions > (dictionaries and others) included in the GB version of AOO. Now would > be the right time to make a wish. I nobody speaks up, it will be > shipped without any dictionaries. > > -Andre Please do ship this with dict-en.oxt - Stuart > >> then I >> guess users here would be surprised at the regression. They would have >> to figure out how to find and download the appropriate extension, which >> I think could be beyond a fair proportion of them, leading to gripes >> about Apache OpenOffice 'not being as good as the old one'. >> >> My 2p. >> >> - Stuart Swales >> >> > -- Stuart Swales