On Aug 15, 2012, at 4:31 PM, TJ Frazier wrote:

> On 8/15/2012 18:52, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Is there a reason that the README in the source release is still pointing 
>>>> at http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/MacOSXBuildInstructions for Mac Builds?
>>>> 
>>>> Minimally this then points to http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AquaBuild 
>>>> this doesn't seem exactly like what was used for 3.4.0?
>>>> 
>>>> Would someone check the Build instructions and then update to be very 
>>>> clear what is current.
>>>> 
>>>> I am proceeding with my tests as if the prerequisites have not changed and 
>>>> that I have them from my AOO 3.4 tests build.
>>> 
>>> I am stuck and I am stopping. I am very unhappy with the instructions on 
>>> the WIki page. I needed help with 3.4 and now I need help with 3.4.1.
>>> 
>>> Please show me the simplest way to build on a Mac from Source and show me 
>>> on the Wiki based on http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/MacOSXBuildInstructions
>>> 
>>> BTW - Remember that SOURCE is the ONLY OFFICIAL RELEASE.
>>> 
>> 
>> That is your opinion, expressed loudly;  it is not Apache or IPMC
>> policy.   We are officially voting on binaries as well and these are
>> being inspected and these will be part of the official release.  The
>> IPMC doc calls the source artifacts "canonical", but the same docs
>> talk about binaries being included in the official release as well.
>> In fact, it says of binary packages, "For some projects, this makes
>> sense. For others, it does not."  Obviously you have your own opinion
>> on this, but it is equally true that the vast majority of PPMC members
>> have a different opinion.
>> 
>> -Rob
> 
> Rob,
> 
> Please consider the blistering email from Roy T. Fielding, to general@inc and 
> to infra, on 3/27, 05:50, opposing "released' binaries. IMHO, he will need to 
> change his mind. OTOH, he is a founder and board member ...

Yes, this was one of the ways that the evolution in what is meant by official 
releases. It is also allowing for more pragmatic consumption of other licenses 
in convenience binaries. This may (or may not) be related to the Oracle vs. 
Google case.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> (Sorry for no neat refs; I keep my own archives :-) )
> /tj/
>> 
>>> (I really don't want to -1 this release.)
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: August 15, 2012 7:01:47 AM PDT
>>>>> To: "ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org" <ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating), RC2
>>>>> Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>>> delivered-to: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> please vote on this email to ooo-dev only, thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/15/12 2:02 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache
>>>>>> OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating). This will be our first bug fix release
>>>>>> after the AOO 3.4 from May 8th. A further milestone to show that we
>>>>>> deliver good and stable software with focus on quality. It will again
>>>>>> help to continue the success of OpenOffice.org and will gain confidence
>>>>>> in OpenOffice.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This time I did not prepare a separate page to highlighting the release
>>>>>> candidate. We had developer snapshot since several weeks and the latest
>>>>>> one based on revision 1372282 is intended to become released if the
>>>>>> voting succeeds. That means and to make it clear you vote here on the
>>>>>> final release based on this snapshot build.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This release is intended to be a bug fix release and to introduce some
>>>>>> further languages:
>>>>>> (1) 71 issues are fixed and a detailed list can be watched under
>>>>>> http://s.apache.org/Huv.
>>>>>> (2) 5 further languages are now officially supported: British English,
>>>>>> Khmer, Slovenian, Slovak, and Finnish.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4.1+Release+Notes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
>>>>>> releases for 20 languages) and further information how to verify and
>>>>>> review Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) can be found on the
>>>>>> following wiki page:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> hhttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOO3.4.1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1
>>>>>> (incubating).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The vote starts now and will be open until:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Saturday, 18 August: 2012-08-18 2:00pm UTC+2.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on
>>>>>> gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 
>>>>>> hours.
>>>>>> But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
>>>>>> to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
>>>>>> members.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating)
>>>>>>  [ ]  0 Don't care
>>>>>>  [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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