Hi Jan,

On Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 01:25:16AM +0100, jan iversen wrote:
> I understand and believe it is a central part of openSource that decisions
> are taken in consensus !! and I really did my best to secure a consensus in
> advance before I started working. But now after the job is done, things we
> clearly discussed and nobody objected to are wrong (moving l10n to an
> archive).

Things are not wrong! It was just an opinion, expressed - IMO - in an
improper manner with an improper wording and a -1, as if it was
a vote/veto, while you were doing this by lazy consensus [1], there was
no need for a vote, and won't be.

[1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#LazyConsensus

> > Even if, as Ariel says, portions will have to be copied and pasted, it
> > doesn't seem too much work to replicate the current links (the still
> > applicable ones) from l10n to l10n-new and "archive" l10n except for the
> > pages that are getting significant traffic.

In the meantime I removed l10n-new and some directories and pages on
l10n that had obvious obsolete content. There is still some stuff about
i18n and l10n documentation, that, in case still valid, should be moved
to the wiki.

@Jan: can you take a look at the following, this looks like information
already available on the wiki, if you don't need it, I'll remove it:

http://ooo-site.apache.org/l10n/extract_merge.html
http://ooo-site.apache.org/l10n/ooo_readme_how_to.sxw

> I am really scared, if "consensus" means in essence, "feel free to wait and
> see the outcome before complaining", instead of bringing the themes in
> advance while it is being discussed. The issues that are on the table, was
> to a large extent mentioned in the discussions.

That's way you shouldn't let it bring you down. You'll find jerks
everywhere :)


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

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