On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Alexandro Colorado <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:06 AM, Alexandro Colorado <[email protected]> wrote: >> > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:43 PM, jan iversen <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> On 1 November 2012 21:04, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:49 PM, jan iversen <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > > Please could you try it, I might be blind but I get an empty page. >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > OK. I had to do an update first, to suck it into the CMS. But then >> >> > when I went to edit brand,mdtext, I saw the "edit" area, which was >> >> > blank, and directly beneath that another edit control called "Page >> >> > Header" that contained the lines like "home: home". >> >> > >> >> I think "page header" is restricted to people with the correct karma. I >> >> cannot see it. >> >> >> >> > >> >> > So here it is now: http://www.openoffice.org/l10n-new/ >> >> > >> >> > > However that is not soo important, Ariel made a perfect job...and I >> >> have >> >> > > just posted (through cms) the other changed (index and leftnav). >> >> > > >> >> > > Do you think it is about time to make the site "official" ? >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > It needs some more editing and content, but the structure looks good >> >> > now. Something we can build on. Was the idea to wipe clean the >> >> > existing l10n directory and move this version in? >> >> > >> >> Yes, my idea was to start on the rock bottom, and then I could (as well >> as >> >> others) add more content. It is difficult to add contents when the >> >> structure is unstable. >> >> >> > >> > That is what I was afraid off, this is just a horrible way to work with. >> If >> > we go with Jan way of working we would be trashing projects left and >> right, >> > loosing data every guy that comes back and pick it up. If he gets bored, >> > the next guy will trash it's work and "start from rock bottom". >> > >> >> >> No one is trashing projects left and right. No one is losing data. >> We're not discussing future developers, etc. If you have any >> technical approaches with the current approach, or if there is some >> existing content on the l10n site that you think should remain live on >> the website, then please speak up. >> > >> Looking at Google Analytics data for the old l10n site, from August >> through September, I see the following total number of page hits >> (total for the two months, not total per day): >> > > I previously update many of the original l10n site, most of the content > that is really irrelevant is unlinked. The pages that have questiable > relevance are updated on the contact information, and the resources are > well there. I want to know for example what would happened to the existing > glossaries. > > The area that talk about TCM will be update with LinkTest information? will > Linktest be used at all? > > I see many repeating sites like how_to_join.html on both projects, just > updating the page with the l10n-new would be sufficient. > > IMO all this work from jan should have gone to one page > "localization/L10n_pilotprocess.html,", and from them moved on to the > different sites. I understand the actual structural changes like the > templates and contextual menus would be added files to the site. > > I would promote for deletion like you said, l10n/languages.html > l10n/download/en-GB.html, project/l10n/languages.html only because they > have nothing to do with the project, or have duplicated within the l10n > project. example "supported languages". >
OK how about we do this: We copy Jan's new files into l10n, having it be the new look and feel and default index.html. Then we can hook up relevant legacy content to the new home page. Stuff that is not hooked up, because it is outdated or superseded by new pages -- this we can delete or ignore as appropriate. In other words, we separate the new look and feel of the website from the proposed new process. -Rob > > >> >> Page,Pageviews >> /l10n/languages.html,1077 >> /l10n/download/en-GB.html,496 >> /l10n/index.html,255 >> /l10n/adding_language.html,156 >> /l10n/localization/translation.html,145 >> /l10n/localization/OpenOffice_Glossary.html,88 >> /l10n/localization/About_TCM.html,54 >> /l10n/localization/English_Russian_OOo_Glossary.html,47 >> /l10n/L10N_Framework/iso_code_build2.html,40 >> /l10n/i18n_framework/HowToAddEncoding.html,38 >> /l10n/all_supported_languages.html,35 >> /project/l10n/languages.html,33 >> /l10n/i18n_framework/Vertical_Writing_in_Calc.html,28 >> /l10n/i18n_framework/Vertical_writing_in_Writer.html,23 >> /l10n/how-to-join.html,20 >> /l10n/i18n_framework/LocaleData.html,19 >> /l10n/localization/L10n_testplan.html,19 >> /l10n/i18n_framework/Grid_layout_for_CJK.html,18 >> /l10n/localization/English_Greek_OOo_Glossary.html,18 >> /l10n/extract_merge.html,16 >> /l10n/irc-channel.html,11 >> /l10n/L10N_Framework/How_to_localize_and_build_OpenOffice.html,10 >> /l10n/L10N_Framework/Intermediate_file_format.html,10 >> /l10n/i18n_framework/CTL_Feature_Priorisation.html,8 >> /l10n/mailing-lists.html,8 >> /l10n/localization/Translation_Tips.html,7 >> /l10n/i18n_framework/HowToAddLocaleInI18n.html,6 >> /l10n/localization/L10n_pilotprocess.html,6 >> /l10n/localization/English_Serbian_OOo_Glossary.html,5 >> >> So there is some things getting traffic, although some of these same >> pages are far out of date. For example, the en-GB download page is >> pointing to an ancient 2.02 version of OOo. >> >> Since in many cases there are external links to these pages, I'd >> recommend a bulk move to an /archive directory. If the content is >> worth keeping, it is worth keeping in the same location, and worth >> keeping up to date. Otherwise we should delete and know that >> Subversion has a copy for archival purposes. And if a page has been >> superseded by a new page, we should keep the same HTML page name, so >> external links will automatically point to the updated content. >> >> -Rob >> > > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > PPMC Apache OpenOffice > http://es.openoffice.org
