On 11/2/12 8:06 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:43 PM, jan iversen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 1 November 2012 21:04, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:49 PM, jan iversen <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> Please could you try it, I might be blind but I get an empty page. >>>> >>> >>> OK. I had to do an update first, to suck it into the CMS. But then >>> when I went to edit brand,mdtext, I saw the "edit" area, which was >>> blank, and directly beneath that another edit control called "Page >>> Header" that contained the lines like "home: home". >>> >> I think "page header" is restricted to people with the correct karma. I >> cannot see it. >> >>> >>> So here it is now: http://www.openoffice.org/l10n-new/ >>> >>>> However that is not soo important, Ariel made a perfect job...and I >> have >>>> just posted (through cms) the other changed (index and leftnav). >>>> >>>> Do you think it is about time to make the site "official" ? >>>> >>> >>> It needs some more editing and content, but the structure looks good >>> now. Something we can build on. Was the idea to wipe clean the >>> existing l10n directory and move this version in? >>> >> Yes, my idea was to start on the rock bottom, and then I could (as well as >> others) add more content. It is difficult to add contents when the >> structure is unstable. >> > > That is what I was afraid off, this is just a horrible way to work with. If > we go with Jan way of working we would be trashing projects left and right, > loosing data every guy that comes back and pick it up. If he gets bored, > the next guy will trash it's work and "start from rock bottom".
I am not sure if I understand you, Jan is trying to bring more structure in the l10n area and he is now using Ariel's templates which is good. And probably many things can be still improved. We have migrated the former pages which is good and we have all the data stored. Now it is time to cleanup the content and to bring more structure in the overall design of the page. I think we had already some discussion where we potentially want to go (unified structure, unified content on the localized pages, plus extra news areas on the localized pages to spread the news for local, regional events etc. Other things should be move in the wiki. Maybe you explain again what your concern is and where you see a problem. I don't understand. Juergen > > "-1" > > > >> >> But of course I would be happy to get more context, if that is needed to >> make it lift off. >> >>> >>> -Rob >>> >>>> rgds >>>> jan I. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1 November 2012 20:25, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:22 PM, jan iversen <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> That worked....with one excepttion. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is a file called brand.mdtext, in cms it show up as empty, >> with >>> no >>>>>> possibility to edit it, but SVN shows the content as: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You might need to scroll down. Mdtext files have a body and then >>>>> additional metadata that shows in a separate edit field in the CMS. >>>>> >>>>> -Rob >>>>> >>>>>> home: home >>>>>> search: search >>>>>> name: Apache OpenOffice >>>>>> tagline: The Free and Open Productivity Suite >>>>>> logo: AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png >>>>>> domain: www.openoffice.org >>>>>> divid: bannera >>>>>> announce: OpenOffice graduates from the Apache Incubator! >>>>>> announceurl: >>>>>> >>> http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/openoffice_graduates_from_the_apache >>>>>> announcetip: Read the announcement >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> is that a special case ?? >>>>>> >>>>>> I will edit the other parts and send the diff files, using the >> normal >>>>>> CMS way, BIG thanks to ariel ! >>>>>> >>>>>> jan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1 November 2012 20:10, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:07 PM, jan iversen < >> [email protected] >>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> I am confused, please forgive me for being a novice. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 1 November 2012 20:01, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:45 PM, jan iversen < >>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> HELP !!! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ariel created very nice mdtext files to help me, which I >> wanted >>> to >>>>> use >>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>> when I follow Rob´s introduction (youtube) on how to use CMS I >>> am >>>>>>>>> presented >>>>>>>>>> with HTML....what am I doing wrong ???? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If the original file checked in is HTML, I'm not sure the CMS >> Web >>>>>>>>> interface will allow you to rename it to a .mdtext file. I'd >> just >>>>> add >>>>>>>>> a new index.mdtext or whatever. If the file is mdtext then the >>> CMS >>>>>>>>> web interface will give you an mdtext-specific UI with a >> preview. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can see that Ariel committed the mdtext in SVN, and looking at >>>>>>> l10n-new I >>>>>>>> can see that she published it... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I would have expected cms to show me mdtext ???? otherwise I >> do >>> not >>>>>>>> understand how we work with cms and mdtext. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ah. OK. You might need to do an "update" in the CMS. The CMS is >>>>>>> looking at a working copy of the website's source files. If >> someone >>>>>>> changes something directly via an SVN checkin, the CMS does not see >>>>>>> that change until you do an update. This can be done via the CMS >> web >>>>>>> UI at the level of a file or directory. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Rob >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is it correct to assume that if I want to use mdtext I can >>> forget >>>>> CMS >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> do it in SVN directly ??? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The CMS is a shortcut to making simple changes to HTML or Mdtext >>> or >>>>>>>>> any other text-based files on the website. Behind the scenes it >>> uses >>>>>>>>> SVN to check in the files. You can always do everything in SVN >>> if >>>>>>>>> you want. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sorry for asking, but this does not seem to be obvious for >>>>>>>>> non-documentary >>>>>>>>>> programmers :-) >>>>>>>>>> Jan I. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1 November 2012 18:57, jan iversen < >> [email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> See below please. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 1 November 2012 18:45, Ariel Constenla-Haile < >>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 01, 2012 at 06:25:12PM +0100, jan iversen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you have an opinion on my request for a change of the >>> site >>>>>>>>>>>> template, to >>>>>>>>>>>>> include context-specific menus ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dynamic menus are not possible. What we already have is a >>> sort of >>>>>>>>>>>> context-specific menu, did you take a look at topnav.mdtext? >>> You >>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>> change the top navigation bar to whatever you want. The same >>> is >>>>> true >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> the left and right bars. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Now I really feel like a "noise provoker", NO I did not see >>>>>>>>> topnav.mdtext >>>>>>>>>>> correctly. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> With that you have solved all my problems, THANKS you !!! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Note that website threads, even related to l10n, are better >>>>> posted >>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>> ooo-dev, with a proper [www] tag; we should try to keep this >>>>> mailing >>>>>>>>>>>> list with the low traffic, if possible; beside there you can >>> get >>>>>>>>> answers >>>>>>>>>>>> from the CMS experts ;) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I agree, this thread was just started due to an announcement >> by >>>>> Rob, >>>>>>>>> and I >>>>>>>>>>> am at the moment very cautious not to start new threads >> unless >>>>>>>>> absolutely >>>>>>>>>>> unavoidable due to a reminder on the dev list. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again for taking the time to help me, now I can change >>> l10n >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> still be with the scope of the standard, which is important >> to >>> me. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Ariel Constenla-Haile >>>>>>>>>>>> La Plata, Argentina >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> > > >
