I understand the purpose of the ND, and I think, as you, that it is important. and all standards that are not registered by an SDO have this problem. So it is a commonly occurring problem, that is why Creative Commons has an answer for that. I think that works allright. I see no problem in the current situation.

But I understand you, and some others feel OpenEHR being attacked, that is why you want another solution. You suggested a few, I suggested one. You can also consult a specialized lawyer.
Maybe you are solving a non existing problem.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

Bert


On 07-09-15 04:02, Thomas Beale wrote:

ND = No Derivatives and is the Creative Commons equivalent of what W3C has in their licence <http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2015/doc-license>. It's just designed to prevent anyone republishing altered versions of the specifications /as the original specifications /- in other words forked publishing, which would create real problems for obvious reasons.

Probably we do want to allow the forking of the specifications into some new specifications, i.e. with new names and identifiers, that clearly cannot confused with the originals, and the ND provision <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/>I believe would prevent this.

I am not sure what the best replacement is though - it's quite important that a specification with the title 'openEHR EHR Information Model' and version xyz really is only one document, and that no modified versions of that can masquerade as that thing.

W3C achieve this with a custom copyright notice (see above). We probably want a different approach. I don't personally have time to research this but ideally we want a licence that does the following for the specifications:

  * requires attribution with all replublishing, sharing
  * prevents republishing in altered form with same document title,
    id, and also publisher i.e. 'openEHR'
  * but allows normal forking into artefacts that are clearly different

- thomas


On 07/09/2015 06:48, Bert Verhees wrote:
The ND on the specs, there must be a kind of protection. Brand protection could work, but must be registered in all countries of the world.

You see the same problem at RFC's, they solved it like this, you cannot change them and publish them under the same name.
In the case of RFC a changed version gets a new number.

I don't know what it takes to make an RFC of something and if it would be appropriate for OpenEHR.

http://www.rfc-editor.org/



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