Sharoon,
i think you hit with your doubts the hart of this discussion. At least
several community members I spoke in the Netherlands have the same
doubts together with most of the others here in the mailinglist.
The rest of the discussion held is about a possible solution to overcome
these doubts.
As Tiny does not respond (yet) to our concerns, some of you have already
a privately maintained branch en others are thinking about setting up a
, resulting in having one community maintained branch that will be more
stable as the Tiny one.
I propose to discus further on the work involved to establish a
separated branch, what are the pro and cons, what rules we want to
introduce in maintaining a branch.
As mentioned in previous mails when we do branch-off, I expect that
Tiny will not commit many more updates/fixes to their stable branch and
we will stand more or less alone. I guess they will merge our bugfixes
in there own private branch and trunk only. Why would Tiny put efforts
in the stable branch when the community branch-off and doesn't use it?
Resulting in that we are alone then. I hope everyone who wants to
branch-off as a solution to the un-stability of the stable, is aware of
the work involved, not only maintaining a branch, but also maintaining
the community itself, with all rules and communication efforts needed.
If we mis-judge this work and/or not willing to spend our time to make
it successful , we will definitely run into the same trouble where Tiny
is in now.
Still I hope Tiny will respond to this discussion with a answer that
solves our main problem, a stable branch that is stable and where the
community is involved in maintaining the branch.
With kinds regards,
Jan Verlaan
Op 24-01-10 11:34, Sharoon Thomas schreef:
Hi all,
Just another example I want to point out:
I proposed a merge correcting the database issues in non locale environment
on the 12th of January:
https://code.launchpad.net/~sharoonthomas/openobject-server/patchfor_postgressql_environnonutf8/+merge/17222
The merge is approved and status changed to merged by an open ERP employee
yesterday with a comment that the patch is good but has already been fixed.
The fix link is here
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~openerp/openobject-server/5.0/revision/c...@tinyerp.com-20100120163913-5ftbs7e85lwqb1et.
I am happy that its fixed, but the author is different and NOT WHEN I
SAY
THIS I AM NOT DYING FOR CREDIT OR KARMA.
I just want to point out that I dont see a single community contribution (if
any like the one above they are made the editors') in the closed branches of
Tiny (server& 'Certified' Addons).
Somebody please clarify my doubts:
1. Is it because tiny wants to retain the ownership of the code of the
server& addons, but benefit from all the community contribution.??
2. I understand its possible to change the license of a project if the
code base is completely owned by the changer. I am not a license geek,
somebody who knows please clarify. I dont want to be pissed off by any
company like the hundreds of open source projects did to their community.
3. The recent marketing efforts may have been seen positively by many. I
try to convince myself as well but i dont get convinced. It looks more to me
like Sun (Or Oracle to be precise) is going to invest in Tiny? Everybody has
intentions behind every penny spent. Definitely they are going to push for
MySQL or probably Oracle being used with ERP? The recent madness and
obsession shown by Tiny in the SA branch sort of reassure me of this. More
here<http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601204&sid=a0Wy0DITQBiA>
where FP says he wants to sell the company off (forget the time
period, why
would he not do it if he gets a better offer now???) What about the major
vendors having purchased>90% of the top Linux kernel developers and many
of the developers of important frameworks like GNOME or KDE? Isn't this
to give them more control on where such technologies are evolving? Isn't
Canonical's purchase of a significant number of Debian developers
in the same
vein?
(source<http://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/archives/60-Launchpad,-Google-and-why-Microsoft-is-not-the-problem.html>
).
I have enough reasons to believe in the above and moreover i see more people
who think alike...
If Tiny doesnt respond to this also then what will they ever respond to
????
To FP: these are not accusations but just doubts and concerns that are in my
mind. I believe there's no better forum to clarify.
Sharoon Thomas
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