When I first wanted to look at om's abilities, I spent ~30 min Googleing for an appliance and found none. So this would've been nice for my purposes (just a few weeks too late - oh well), On Jun 20, 2011 11:12 PM, "Mike" <cais...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've not looked at it but thanks for making it available. I've not had any > problems with centos to date but I had thought it might be better to use > Ubuntu. > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Fernando Gomes <f.m.go...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> The appliance referenced in the first email from Diogo was built by >> me, I made this often, not yet for the 1.7 version I'm afraid. The >> idea is to be easy to anyone to try openmeetings without all the >> issues of platform / components / versions compatibility, it is just >> starting the virtual machine and that's it. For example, running >> openmeetings on Ubuntu Server 11.04 64 bit is not just to run some >> apt-get commands and go, you have to build some packages from source >> because they are not available, etc (for example swftools). I've even >> used one of the previous VMs I built on the company where I work to >> have an easier way of communicating between our different geographic >> sites, our IT support guys put it temporarily running on their ESX >> VMware platform. Now they supply a service based on Scopia, so "my" VM >> is not used anymore - one nice thing about Scopia that I can't compete >> with Openmeetings is the integration with other videoconference >> systems. We have several videoconference rooms with Polycom hardware >> videoconference systems, and we are able to interact with these >> systems in our PCs through the Scopia service. >> >> Best regards >> >> Fernando >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Mike <cais...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I too run a vm based fax server and haven't had any problems but then >> it's >> > very low use too. >> > >> > Anything special to take into considering when buildin OM onto a virtual >> > machine? >> > I ask because the thread mentioned a virtual appliance being available >> but >> > I'm not clear on the benefits over just building it myself. >> > >> > Thanks. >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:35 AM, shawn wilson <ag4ve...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Asterisk used to have these issues with reviving faxes. I've heard this >> is >> >> resolved in recent versions. >> >> >> >> That said, I haven't really noticed any issues with voice in voip vm >> >> systems. There might be sync issues if you record a meeting on a vm - >> don't >> >> know. >> >> >> >> I pay for a vps from a company that runs kvm though I haven't gotten >> into >> >> most of the features. >> >> >> >> On Jun 20, 2011 10:14 AM, "Mike" <cais...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > I don't rent, I own the infrastructure so can dedicate hardware. Most >> of >> >> > my >> >> > blades are minimum dual duo-core 2.4 and up with 8 to 16GB of memory. >> >> > Based >> >> > on what you mention below, sounds like I have plenty of power. >> >> > >> >> > The problem is that even in testing sip servers for example, we've >> come >> >> > across plenty of timing issues where the clock would skew and become a >> >> > problem so have since avoided anything which is real time such as sip >> or >> >> > audio/video. >> >> > >> >> > This is why I thought it was interesting when I saw this thread as I >> >> > most >> >> > definitely like to use VM's when possible because of the benefits in >> >> > maintenance. >> >> > >> >> > Sounds like you don't have any concerns using OM on VM's so I think >> I'll >> >> > give it a try. I tend not to overburden blades when doing this because >> >> > hardware is cheap, complaints aren't. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks for the input. >> >> > >> >> > Mike >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:53 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >> >> > seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Hi Mike, >> >> >> >> >> >> performance hardly depends on VM VS dedicated server. It is just >> often >> >> >> the >> >> >> case that people rent a cheap VM for 20 Euros /Bugs and then find out >> >> >> that >> >> >> they have no SWAP space, not enough memory et cetera and no chance in >> >> >> changing that with their cheap VM package as they have no control >> about >> >> >> the >> >> >> Server that hosts all the VMs and manages the HW resources. >> >> >> >> >> >> If you have a scenario where you actually have the full control about >> >> >> the >> >> >> VMs, virtualization has the same pro's and cons like with any other >> >> >> application and you can calc the IO or number of simultaneous users >> >> >> same >> >> >> like on a dedicated server. >> >> >> >> >> >> Absolute numbers depend on the use-case. >> >> >> Around 500-1000 simultaneous users for 4GB RAM, 3 GHz CPU. >> >> >> >> >> >> Sebastian >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2011/6/20 Mike <cais...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Can this actually be done on a vm? I've been using a dedicated >> server >> >> >>> because people used to say it wasn't worth doing on vm because of >> the >> >> >>> realtime requirements. Assuming beefy enough hardware and resources >> to >> >> >>> the >> >> >>> vm, what could one expect in terms of simultaneous users? Anyone >> have >> >> >>> any >> >> >>> input based on their own usage. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Sebastian Wagner >> >> >>> <seba.wag...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Thanks Diogo, >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> I have slightly modified the wiki/installation with the links: >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/InstallationOpenMeetings#VMWare >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Sebastian >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> -- >> >> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> >>>> Groups >> >> >>>> "OpenMeetings User" group. >> >> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >> >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/openmeetings-user/-/iLyO0_5x604J. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> To post to this group, send email to >> >> >>>> openmeetings-user@googlegroups.com. >> >> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> >>>> openmeetings-user+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> >>>> For more options, visit this group at >> >> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/openmeetings-user?hl=en. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> >>> Groups >> >> >>> "OpenMeetings User" group. >> >> >>> To post to this group, send email to >> >> >>> openmeetings-user@googlegroups.com. >> >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> >>> openmeetings-user+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> >>> For more options, visit this group at >> >> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/openmeetings-user?hl=en. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Sebastian Wagner >> >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de >> >> >> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com >> >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> >> >> seba.wag...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> >> Groups >> >> >> "OpenMeetings User" group. >> >> >> To post to this group, send email to >> >> >> openmeetings-user@googlegroups.com. >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> >> openmeetings-user+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/openmeetings-user?hl=en. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> > Groups "OpenMeetings User" group. >> >> > To post to this group, send email to >> openmeetings-user@googlegroups.com. >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> > openmeetings-user+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> > For more options, visit this group at >> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/openmeetings-user?hl=en. >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >> "OpenMeetings User" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to openmeetings-user@googlegroups.com >> . >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> openmeetings-user+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/openmeetings-user?hl=en. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "OpenMeetings User" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to openmeetings-user@googlegroups.com . >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > openmeetings-user+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/openmeetings-user?hl=en. >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "OpenMeetings User" group. >> To post to this group, send email to openmeetings-user@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> openmeetings-user+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/openmeetings-user?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OpenMeetings User" group. > To post to this group, send email to openmeetings-user@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to openmeetings-user+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/openmeetings-user?hl=en. >
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