Ludovic Rousseau wrote:
> > Ludovic made it clear that he does not want to cooperate. So I
> > guess the initiative is rejected and dropped.

Hold on a moment.


> The problem is that I do not have an unlimited amount of time. I
> prefer to slowly improve pcsc-lite step-by-step rather than start a
> new project from scratch.

Please clarify this. I don't think you are saying that you will
never ever let go of pcsc-lite. Would you be interested in working
in a new project if and when another codebase offers interesting
possibilities, and even phase out pcsc-lite in favor of the new,
compatible, project?

Likewise, Alon, please clarify what you request of Ludovic. I think
it is unrealistic to ask him to both keep working on pcsc-lite _and_
invest a lot of time in building something new. I do not think you
expect this from him?

Long term I want the system outlined by Alon. Short term pcsc-lite
requires maintenance.

This is open source software, I care more about improving design than
about releasing tomorrow. For me, it's fine if the right<tm> solution
isn't available until in two years.

If there are businesses or developers out there who need open source
smart card support for new hardware, and noone knows OpenSC, maybe
they can help by investing a little in the new system, so it will be
finished quicker.

It is not our responsibility as volunteers to deliver a working
product at the cost of our sanity. It is our responsibility to apply
the most of our ability and create stellar technology that will serve
users well once it is working. Unless someone is paying there is no
deadline.


> > I am considering, just for fun, to add slot event reporting into
> > OpenCT and add PC/SC compliant interface that uses OpenCT API. It
> > is not the framework I outlined, but it will take us much closer
> > to what we need.
> 
> You want to start a competing PC/SC library? Do you think that will
> simplify the live of normal users to have two PC/SC frameworks?

Please Dr Rousseau, what kind of territorial statement is that?


> If nobody invests in OpenSC internals knowledge the new cards will
> not be supported and European citizens will not have free software
> solution to use their cards.

I think that is irrelevant. It is not the job of volunteers to
provide software for Europeans, or anyone else. We should all work on
what we believe does the most good. We are too knowledgeable to waste
our time and our lives on discussion that leads nowhere. All of us.


> pcsc-lite is (well) maintained. OpenSC is on the decline. You
> should know what to work on if you want to help support of smart
> cards in free software project.

Again that seems territorial.. I have to say I'm surprised. :\


Ludovic, I completely understand that you feel unable to contribute
much to a new project while still maintaining pcsc-lite as you do
now. But would you refuse to cooperate with the project (share
knowledge and code) if it was there, and do you refuse to find a way
to migrate away from pcsc-lite in the long term?

Alon, of course you don't want to write the whole thing all on your
own. I think Ludovic and everyone else will help the project if it is
there, but maybe he won't do it by sending patches. I know I will try
to help the project. I don't regularly use cards anymore, but I have
some hardware around here. I could start again. :)


//Peter
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