There is of course always the option to implement a region module that can implement some fairly more detailed use case, maybe connecting to stuff like scheduled jobs et c.
/Stefan > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:opensim-users- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Klein > Sent: den 21 november 2009 15:24 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Parcel Archiver? > > > I see your points and was only suggesting we have some refined way of > backing > up regions instead of either all or nothing. Even a basic program for > backing up data on a computer allows you to backup either the whole > disk, > individual directories, and individual files (tar vs dd for example). > We > have methods for backing up the whole drive and individual files but > not > directories. It just seems unbalanced. > > I have seen some pretty intense builds in SL and OS on relatively small > parcels that would be a huge issue to recreate. The IAR files are great > but > are not a reasonable method for backing up and restoring a 64 x 128 > parcel > with several buildings full of content including a museum and > stage/events > area or a nightclub. Experience tells me we are going to need this if > we > continue to support the concept of having parcels. > > -Robert > > > Stefan Andersson-3 wrote: > > > > One way to go about it could be to make sure the oar is subdivided > into > > parcels when storing it; if so, one would probably backup the whole > oar, > > but > > be able to restore only parts of the oar. > > > > > > > > I have only used oars for full backup, so I don't know if the parcel > info > > is > > already stored in it? > > > > > > > > /Stefan > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Len > Brown > > Sent: den 21 november 2009 09:20 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Parcel Archiver? > > > > > > > > I am tempted to say that individual parcel backups is not a good > idea. If > > one is building on a parcel, as opposed to a full region, then simply > > maintaining copies of their items in their inventory should be > adequate. > > > > Parcels come in so many sizes and making a backup would require the > new > > parcel for a restore would have to be identical in dimensions. So > this > > can > > be very complex if you have a parcel that, for example, lies along a > road > > so > > the side of your parcel is angular. Or if you have an odd-shaped > parcel > > or > > a combination of parcels that are separated by other parcels you do > not > > own. > > > > Backing up a region is simple enough given the standard dimensions, > even > > when dealing with megaregions, which are really just a combination of > > multiple "regular" regions of standard size. > > > > So I feel that backing up personal parcels should remain the process > of > > maintaining items in your personal inventory and making a backup of > THAT > > rather than the parcel area itself. > > > > - Len W. Brown > > [email protected] > > > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Karen Palen <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Just a thought, but with the economics of OpenSim being totally > different > > from Second Life, I wonder if we will end up with hundreds of tiny > parcels > > in each region? > > > > It seems to me that there are several issues here concerning changes > in > > parcel size/location between backup and restore as well as some > > ownership/covenant/zoning issues. > > > > As I think about the problem I am not sure I (or anyone else) can > fully > > articulate even the nature of those issues since they depend heavily > on > > the > > direction that OpenSim development and implementation takes. > > > > Just the same we do need to consider them as best we can lest we fall > into > > some of the same traps as Second Life (content ownership, banking > debacle, > > and gambling come to mind). > > > > Karen > > > > --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Robert Klein <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> From: Robert Klein <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Parcel Archiver? > >> To: [email protected] > >> Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 6:09 PM > >> > >> Hey Justin, > >> > >> Yes that is correct, just archive a single parcel on a > >> region. Whatever is > >> in the parcel gets put into the PAR file. Can it be done? > >> > >> -Robert > > > >> > >> > >> justincc wrote: > >> > > >> > Robert Klein wrote: > >> >> We have a OAR for regions and a IAR for inventory > >> but what about a PAR > >> >> for > >> >> doing parcel area archiving? It would be an easy > >> way to dedicate one > >> >> subdivided parcel area for bringing things in and > >> out of OpenSims that > >> >> either use the mega region or just have a single > >> region that is > >> >> subdivided. > >> >> Also the beauty of this would be in the future if > >> you have renters or > >> >> event > >> >> spaces you can keep backups of just those spaces. > >> > >> > > >> > I'm not too sure if I get exactly what you mean. > >> Are you talking about > >> > archiving just the contents of a single parcel on a > >> region? > >> > > >> > -- > >> > justincc > >> > Justin Clark-Casey > >> > http://justincc.org > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Opensim-users mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > > http://n2.nabble.com/Parcel-Archiver-tp4008165p4040934.html > >> Sent from the opensim-users mailing list archive at > >> Nabble.com. > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Opensim-users mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Opensim-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Opensim-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Parcel-Archiver- > tp4008165p4042739.html > Sent from the opensim-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > _______________________________________________ > Opensim-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users _______________________________________________ Opensim-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
