There are several kinds of filters one could add to the general archiving facility. Parcels... why not. Another one -- more important to me -- is owner id.
Stefan Andersson wrote: > There is of course always the option to implement a region module that can > implement some fairly more detailed use case, maybe connecting to stuff like > scheduled jobs et c. > > /Stefan > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:opensim-users- >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Klein >> Sent: den 21 november 2009 15:24 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Parcel Archiver? >> >> >> I see your points and was only suggesting we have some refined way of >> backing >> up regions instead of either all or nothing. Even a basic program for >> backing up data on a computer allows you to backup either the whole >> disk, >> individual directories, and individual files (tar vs dd for example). >> We >> have methods for backing up the whole drive and individual files but >> not >> directories. It just seems unbalanced. >> >> I have seen some pretty intense builds in SL and OS on relatively small >> parcels that would be a huge issue to recreate. The IAR files are great >> but >> are not a reasonable method for backing up and restoring a 64 x 128 >> parcel >> with several buildings full of content including a museum and >> stage/events >> area or a nightclub. Experience tells me we are going to need this if >> we >> continue to support the concept of having parcels. >> >> -Robert >> >> >> Stefan Andersson-3 wrote: >>> One way to go about it could be to make sure the oar is subdivided >> into >>> parcels when storing it; if so, one would probably backup the whole >> oar, >>> but >>> be able to restore only parts of the oar. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have only used oars for full backup, so I don't know if the parcel >> info >>> is >>> already stored in it? >>> >>> >>> >>> /Stefan >>> >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Len >> Brown >>> Sent: den 21 november 2009 09:20 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Parcel Archiver? >>> >>> >>> >>> I am tempted to say that individual parcel backups is not a good >> idea. If >>> one is building on a parcel, as opposed to a full region, then simply >>> maintaining copies of their items in their inventory should be >> adequate. >>> Parcels come in so many sizes and making a backup would require the >> new >>> parcel for a restore would have to be identical in dimensions. So >> this >>> can >>> be very complex if you have a parcel that, for example, lies along a >> road >>> so >>> the side of your parcel is angular. Or if you have an odd-shaped >> parcel >>> or >>> a combination of parcels that are separated by other parcels you do >> not >>> own. >>> >>> Backing up a region is simple enough given the standard dimensions, >> even >>> when dealing with megaregions, which are really just a combination of >>> multiple "regular" regions of standard size. >>> >>> So I feel that backing up personal parcels should remain the process >> of >>> maintaining items in your personal inventory and making a backup of >> THAT >>> rather than the parcel area itself. >>> >>> - Len W. Brown >>> [email protected] >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Karen Palen <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Just a thought, but with the economics of OpenSim being totally >> different >>> from Second Life, I wonder if we will end up with hundreds of tiny >> parcels >>> in each region? >>> >>> It seems to me that there are several issues here concerning changes >> in >>> parcel size/location between backup and restore as well as some >>> ownership/covenant/zoning issues. >>> >>> As I think about the problem I am not sure I (or anyone else) can >> fully >>> articulate even the nature of those issues since they depend heavily >> on >>> the >>> direction that OpenSim development and implementation takes. >>> >>> Just the same we do need to consider them as best we can lest we fall >> into >>> some of the same traps as Second Life (content ownership, banking >> debacle, >>> and gambling come to mind). >>> >>> Karen >>> >>> --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Robert Klein <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> From: Robert Klein <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Parcel Archiver? >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 6:09 PM >>>> >>>> Hey Justin, >>>> >>>> Yes that is correct, just archive a single parcel on a >>>> region. Whatever is >>>> in the parcel gets put into the PAR file. Can it be done? >>>> >>>> -Robert >>>> >>>> justincc wrote: >>>>> Robert Klein wrote: >>>>>> We have a OAR for regions and a IAR for inventory >>>> but what about a PAR >>>>>> for >>>>>> doing parcel area archiving? It would be an easy >>>> way to dedicate one >>>>>> subdivided parcel area for bringing things in and >>>> out of OpenSims that >>>>>> either use the mega region or just have a single >>>> region that is >>>>>> subdivided. >>>>>> Also the beauty of this would be in the future if >>>> you have renters or >>>>>> event >>>>>> spaces you can keep backups of just those spaces. >>>>> I'm not too sure if I get exactly what you mean. >>>> Are you talking about >>>>> archiving just the contents of a single parcel on a >>>> region? >>>>> -- >>>>> justincc >>>>> Justin Clark-Casey >>>>> http://justincc.org >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Opensim-users mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: >>> http://n2.nabble.com/Parcel-Archiver-tp4008165p4040934.html >>>> Sent from the opensim-users mailing list archive at >>>> Nabble.com. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Opensim-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Opensim-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Opensim-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users >>> >>> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Parcel-Archiver- >> tp4008165p4042739.html >> Sent from the opensim-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> _______________________________________________ >> Opensim-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > > _______________________________________________ > Opensim-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users > _______________________________________________ Opensim-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
