Felix Schulte writes: > > The PROJECT TEAM agreed with my SUGGESTION > Was this really a SUGGESTION? It looked like a thread for me
A "threat" looks like this: "I will vote to deny this case, and I will raise the same issue with the C-team at integration time." Nothing Darren said looked even remotely like that. I understand that project teams sometimes do take the random opinions of a handful of ARC members as absolute law. And it's as much a problem within Sun as it is for external contributors. That said, this is still a discussion, not a set of absolutes. If it were absolutes, then there'd be no need for the discussion at all. > I was referring to the stupid libcmd questions. If ARC would have done > their stupid homework and read the stupid ksh93 integration mailman > archive there wouldn't be so many stupid questions I think it's vitally important that both Sun internal and other Open Solaris participants understand how the various reviews are done, including architectural review. The above statement misunderstands an important part of the process. It is the project team's responsibility to bring relevant materials forward for review. It is not the reviewer's responsibility to read through the tons of discussion that may have led up to a submission, nor to track down the participants in the various private discussions that may have been held prior to submission for review. Yes, I agree that _some_ of this discussion could have been short-cut by a review of the archives (or better yet, a summary). No, I don't agree that _all_ of it would have been avoided, as some still needed convincing. This is just the nature of reviews. And I especially don't agree that your commentary on the process is particularly helpful here. -- James Carlson, KISS Network <james.d.carlson at sun.com> Sun Microsystems / 1 Network Drive 71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677