Alan Coopersmith <alan.coopersm...@oracle.com> wrote: > joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: > > The community needs to be able to prevent moves into a direction that is > > aparently driven by customers but against the will of the majority of the > > users > > and the community needs to be able to put back their developments results. > > That will only happen if the community makes its own fork. Neither Sun
I am not interested in a fork as long as there is a hope that there is a way based on collaboration. Collaboration saves time and prevents balkanization. This is an important reason why there is a need to have an interaction between the OCB and Oracle. The current behavior of Oracle causes uncertainty in the community and we need to find out whether Oracle is planning to drive OpenSolaris against a wall or whether there are plans for the future that include the community in a way that benefits both sides. - The best way would be if we could establish a "co-development" community that constructively collaborates with the primary owner and sponsor of the OpenSolaris and related codebases. This would finally implement the original plan for OpenSolaris and this would be the most profitable solution for Oracle as this seems to be the only way to increase the user base in the future. - A less desiable way would not include the community and in this case, the community needs at least a community owned code repository that serves something like the Linux Kernel compilation from Alan Cox. In such a repository, the community decides on what may come in but even this only works if the lord of the manor understands why the community made a specific decision and eventually adopts to the decisions of the community. - The worst scenario would be that nothing like the above works. In this case we would need to find out whether we still have a vital community that is able to create a fork. In this case, I see no future for Oracle Solaris nor for the Oracle Sun Hardware business as customers will leave the sinking ship and check for alternatives. > nor Oracle would put the community "wishes" ahead of customer requirements, > nor do I know of any successful open source OS driven by majority votes of > users. If IPS was a service of the kernel, something like IPS would never have a chance to make it into the Linux kernel as Linus does not accept a replacement before the replacement does not at least offer the features of the software that is going to be replaced. The ideas are my private ideas and not the official plan of the OGB. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org