On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Jordan Rinke <[email protected]> wrote:
> Because there is still debate over a forum or a QnA site I will wait to see > what the decision is tomorrow before making any demo sites for review. The > problem still is that the QnA solves a different issue, it provides a means > to answer very specific questions not a realm for discussion. A user forum > allows people to ask questions which require discussion and may have various > trade offs. Not just "how do I get a list of all running instances using the > euca2ools" which would be a great QnA question but questions like "How do I > HA my mySQL DB for Nova" a question that will involve discussion, multiple > potential answers based on their configuration and have trade offs depending > on what they are wanting. There will be no specifically right answer. I > think a number of people are failing to fully understand that not everyone > is a developer and not everyone has the understanding to ask a very specific > and provably solved question, and that not all questions are even > specifically solvable but that the discussion around those provides valuable > information for the community. > Agreed, QnA sites are not designed for discussion just as forums are not designed for QnA. There's actually a pretty succinct answer about it at http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/36818/would-you-recommend-stack-exchange-sites-vs-other-types-of-forum > A QnA site is basically an evolution of the mailing list which makes it > fairly obvious that everyone who loves the ML loves the QnA it is an > extension of the same concept but it is to narrow to accept the user > community as a whole. > IMO forums are an evolution of MLs and QnA are a different concept but what have you. > For a moment, stop thinking as someone who has experience (possibly in > depth developer experience) with OpenStack and think like someone who has > heard a little about it, wants to talk to someone about the test install the > are attempting to run but doesn't know how to go about it. If we want mass > adoption we need to provide a welcome area for this type of discussion. We > can develop the best software in the world but if we don't make it easy for > people to use and understand and discuss it is useless. We should be doing > everything we can to make the community as accepting of new members as > possible and I think a forum is very much so one of those methods. > > I am not even saying that the Qna needs to be exclusive, we can have both > if that seems right... I don't know at what point we decided they were > mutually exclusive. > No such thing was ever decided. My point was simply that if we're evaluating solutions then StackExchange-style sites shouldn't be disregarded. If the community decided that both or one or the other is appropriate then that's what we'll go with. Obviously I prefer the QnA style, I've never found the forum style helpful even when I'm a n00b on a subject (that's not even necessarily software development related). Everett > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Vishvananda Ishaya" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2011 11:15am > To: [email protected] > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Openstack] Creating a forum > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > A few people have mentioned the stack exchange style idea. I think this is > a fantastic idea; StackOverflow, etc. has been extremely useful to me. Since > it is free to host a subdomain on StackExchange if there is enough support, > we might as well get the ball rolling in addition. This could replace or be > in addition to a forum. > > Note that this is not any kind of "official" decision to use Stack > Exchange, but if we want to leave ourselves the opportunity to use it we > need to get it started soon because it will likely take a couple of weeks. > I went ahead and proposed it here: > > http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/31788/openstack > > if this seems like a good idea to you, follow it and create and vote on > example questions. It would start as a community site. If there is enough > support on the site we can decide (with the ppb) whether we want it to be an > "official" channel. > > Vish > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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