On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 07:26 -0400, James Knott wrote:
> Hans van der Merwe wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 11:27 -0400, James Knott wrote:
> >   
> >> Hans van der Merwe wrote:
> >>     
> >>> And...  desktop users install all kinds of insane apps - when desktop
> >>> linux is popular - more apps will appear - increasing the risk of
> >>> installing a malicious one.
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> Any malware capable of causing significant damage i.e. beyond the users 
> >> files etc., will require root privileges.  This requires deliberate 
> >> action, unlike in Windows, where simply going to the wrong website or 
> >> openning tainted email is all it takes.  No one can make the claim Linux 
> >> or any other OS is invulnerable, but there's a world of difference 
> >> between it and Windows, that has nothing to do with the number of 
> >> users.  If popularity were the criteria, please explain why Apache on 
> >> Linux or Unix or even Apache on Windows makes for a far more secure web 
> >> site than IIS on Windows.  IIRC, Apache on Linux/Unix is at least 75% of 
> >> the web servers.
> >>
> >>     
> >
> >
> > Again! - deleting a user's files is a big thing, users see this as the
> > PC being broken!
> >
> > Yes, Apache servers are secure, BUT again Im talking about Desktop users
> > not servers (havent really seen independent reports showing IIS is not
> > as secure at the moment, with all the patches etc; I wont run IIS
> > because I believe its wrong not to support standards, and it usually
> > locks you into the MS upgrade and dependency cycle, as my company is in
> > now).
> >
> > Number of users = number of commercial and free apps = higher
> > probability of one being malicious.   More users matter.
> >
> > Hans
> >   
> 
> You seem to be a bit thick, so here it is once again.  Lost files are
> the least of your problems with malware.  However, there are many things
> that users neglect to do to protect their data, which have nothing to do
> with Linux vs Windows.  That said, Linux is a far more stable and
> reliable platform, that is much more resistant to malware and therefor
> less likely to place the user in the position of losing their data.
> 
> BTW, if you consider lost files to be the only risk of malware, then I
> suggest you keep your computer off the internet.  You're a hazard to
> everyone else.

Please stop playing the man and concentrate on the game - please.  Read
your netiquette.





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