Hi Éric, 

Thank you for the comments. 

Please see inline.

I let my co-authors further comment as appropriate. 

Cheers,
Med

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> # Éric Vyncke, INT AD, comments for draft-ietf-opsawg-yang-vpn-
> service-pm-13
> CC @evyncke
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> Thank you for the work put into this document.
> 
> Please find below some non-blocking COMMENT points (but replies
> would be
> appreciated even if only for my own education), and some nits.
> 
> Special thanks to Adrian Farrel for the shepherd's detailed write-
> up including
> the WG consensus *and* the justification of the intended status.
> 
> I hope that this review helps to improve the document,
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> Regards,
> 
> -éric
> 
> ## COMMENTS
> 
> ### Relationship with other OPSAWG documents
> 
> Just curious: it this work somehow related to
> draft-ietf-opsawg-service-assurance-architecture ? I.e., should
> this document
> add some reference to the service assurance I-Ds ?

[Med] Both drafts refer to RFC8969 which provides the overall framework. The 
assurance draft defines an architecture that can consume the data exposed by 
means of I-D.ietf-opsawg-yang-vpn-service-pm. 
I-D.ietf-opsawg-yang-vpn-service-pm does not assume nor preclude that SAIN is 
in place. 

If I have to make a change, I would make it in 
draft-ietf-opsawg-service-assurance-architecture, e.g., 

OLD: 
   Service orchestrators use Network service YANG modules that will
   infer network-wide configuration and, therefore the invocation of the
   appropriate device modules (Section 3 of [RFC8969]).  Knowing that a
   configuration is applied doesn't imply that the service is up and
   running as expected.  For instance, the service might be degraded
   because of a failure in the network, the experience quality is
   distorted, or a service function may be reachable at the IP level but
   does not provide its intended function.  Thus, the network operator
   must monitor the service operational data at the same time as the
   configuration (Section 3.3 of [RFC8969]).  To feed that task, the
   industry has been standardizing on telemetry to push network element
   performance information.

NEW:
   Service orchestrators use Network service YANG modules that will
   infer network-wide configuration and, therefore the invocation of the
   appropriate device modules (Section 3 of [RFC8969]).  Knowing that a
   configuration is applied doesn't imply that the service is up and
   running as expected.  For instance, the service might be degraded
   because of a failure in the network, the experience quality is
   distorted, or a service function may be reachable at the IP level but
   does not provide its intended function.  Thus, the network operator
   must monitor the service operational data at the same time as the
   configuration (Section 3.3 of [RFC8969]).  To feed that task, the
   industry has been standardizing on telemetry to push network element
   performance information (e.g., [I-D.ietf-opsawg-yang-vpn-service-pm]).

> 
> ### Section 2.1
> 
> As 'PE' is defined, I was also expecting to see 'CE' (notably used
> in section
> 4.1) and 'P' (notably used in section 4.3).
> 

[Med] OK

> ### Section 3
> 
> Suggest to explain why in `Models are key for automating network
> management
> operations.`.

[Med] RFC8969 provides a detailed discussion about this. I suggest to make this 
change: 

OLD:
   Models are key for automating network management operations.
   According to [RFC8969], together with service and network models,
   performance measurement telemetry models are needed to monitor
   network performance to meet specific service requirements (typically
   captured in an SLA).

NEW:
   Models are key for automating network management operations (Section 3 of 
[RFC8969]).
   Particularly, together with service and network models,
   performance measurement telemetry models are needed to monitor
   network performance to meet specific service requirements (typically
   captured in an SLA).

> 
> ### Section 4
> 
> Unsure about the value of figure 2, but feel free to keep it (this
> is a matter
> of taste).

[Med] This can be removed, IMO. 

> 
> ### Section 4.3
> 
> Just curious about why `mac-num-limit` is used rather than
> `maximum-mac-entries` for consistency with the previous entries?

[Med] Good catch. I suggest we go for "limit-number" to be consistent with this 
part from RFC8407: 

"Child nodes within a container or list SHOULD NOT
   replicate the parent identifier"

> 
> ### Section 4.4
> 
> Would it be useful to split `inbound-non-unicast` into broadcast
> and multicast ?
> 

[Med] This was raised also by Rob during his review 
(https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/opsawg/bGqJ7V2EvVzJv7H-Xi2Y-jIOsKw/). 
Please search for "bum". 

> ## NITS

[Med] Thanks for catching those. Will be fixed. Thanks. 

> 
> ### Space after ':'
> 
> It would nicer if there was a space character after several ':'.
> 
> ### Section 4.4
> 
> s/updatd/updated/
> 
> ## Notes
> 
> This review is in the ["IETF Comments" Markdown format][ICMF], You
> can use the
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> 
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> [ICT]: https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments
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