i dont think you get the message. it's not meant for you. i just share word of wisdom that i apply for years. to get info and learn exp from other people is more important before i'm doing business or other things. otherwise, it will drain lots of money, time and other resources.
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com>wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin > <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: > > +100 Rafe! > > Failure sure an OPTION for looser! > > Jika kita pernah kenal rakan yang sudah pernah masuk longkang, jatuh, > > tunggang terbalik, why must we do the same things? We can always get > advice > > from them to avoid those thing! > > > > Winner learn from other experience and knowledge and minimise mistake. > not > > to say afraid of failure but minimise it to achieve success faster than > > people before them. > > haha .. if failure is an option for losers, I wonder how silicon > valley able to come into being .. > > the camp where failure is not an option unable to find their own path. > chasing others, but not lead. > > ah well ... i know where y'all come from, so arguing is pointless anyway .. > > better for me to focus in the current angle which I've chosen and see > how far stuff will go .. > > peace be upon all of you > > > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:14 AM, rafe azsnal <azs...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > failure is an option... YES most of us do learn when we fail.. but why > >> > should it be that way, centuries and eon we still at that par? we live > >> > by choices and that is something that the ALL MIGHT has given us... we > >> > learn and we adapt and choose not to fail, champion or not if you are > >> > willing to share the experience and knowledge you can actually > >> > minimize the failure and may not fail at all. i may not speak for all > >> > >> it is because we have come to the point that we fear failure, that we > >> became afraid to diverge from the norm. > >> > >> > but i speak for myself where failure is not longer an option to > >> > consider. why are we still having meeting, discussion, roundtable, > >> > champion, experience people and all those thing if failure is > >> > something to consider yet again? I don't ask for a complete perfection > >> > bro.. but i would like to see it that way. who doesn't right? my > >> > humble request is only to see it happen and effort to make it happen.. > >> > but what ever it is you still have the right to think how ever you > >> > want it to be and the right to voice what ever that you want it to > >> > be... > >> > > >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Izhar Firdaus > >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:17 AM, rafe azsnal <azs...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Red1, AJ, Raja and the rest, > >> >>> > >> >>> what must we or them make mistake twice? or oven and over again?? > >> >>> isn't the purpose of having the "Champion" or "Industry Capable > >> >>> Individual" to guide and teach to those who need it? this is why you > >> >>> are here reason being why they or we need people like YOU. none the > >> >>> less no one is perfect but perfection is made by those who have > >> >>> experience it. share those experience for those who need it and work > >> >>> together to achieve the goals... > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> failure and mistakes are blessings in disguise, the "champions" can > >> >> only guide, but not guarantee success. true perfection only happens > >> >> after thousands of failures. perfection without failure only belongs > >> >> to The Creator. don't fear failure, go ahead and fail, and learn from > >> >> it, like many of us. > >> >> > >> >> 後はあなたの決めることよ > >> >> ato wa , anata no kimeru koto yo. > >> >> the rest, its up for you to decide > >> >> > >> >> p/s: keep up the work, /me going to approach at a different angle. > >> >> politics is not my game. > >> >> > >> >>> but that is me with my two cents idea.. > >> >>> > >> >>> regards, > >> >>> //rafe > >> >>> > >> >>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sabrina Lim <sabr...@stronium.com> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Hey guys, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Good to know that you guys are very passionate in what you do. This > >> >>>> is > >> >>>> something that I personally would love to see and help make a > >> >>>> difference > >> >>>> in our own country and subsequently, worldwide. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Let's keep our passion burning and keep striving for the best > >> >>>> regardless > >> >>>> of circumstances. Working together towards achieving a shared goal. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> It's been a pleasure to know you guys. All the best. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Best regards, > >> >>>> Sabrina > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Well said raja! > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> On 13/09/2009, Raja Iskandar Shah <rajaiskand...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >>>>>> aj / red1 > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> concern on developers noted. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> sebab tu, saya mencadangkan supaya kita ambil projek rumah anak > >> >>>>>> yatim > >> >>>>>> ulu > >> >>>>>> gadong sebagai salah satu program perintis. dari situ kita boleh > >> >>>>>> cungkil > >> >>>>>> apa > >> >>>>>> yg kelab perlu buat untuk ubah manusia biasa kepada seorang world > >> >>>>>> class > >> >>>>>> open > >> >>>>>> source developer. kita perlukan juga linuxvarisit sebagai program > >> >>>>>> perintis > >> >>>>>> di peringkat ipta. perlukan juga adempiere coe sebagai program > >> >>>>>> perintis > >> >>>>>> di > >> >>>>>> peringkat industri. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> saya, red1 dan aj mempunyai pengalaman, idea dan bias tersendiri > >> >>>>>> berkaitan > >> >>>>>> membimbing open source developers - tapi kami perlu take a step > >> >>>>>> backward > >> >>>>>> and > >> >>>>>> let the club make the mistakes, errors, failures, heartaches, and > >> >>>>>> successes > >> >>>>>> that each one of us have already done. sebab kami juga tidak > >> >>>>>> mempunyai > >> >>>>>> the > >> >>>>>> perfect answer - kami sendiri juga perlu belajar dari anda semua > >> >>>>>> terutama > >> >>>>>> dari generasi muda dan belia. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:18 AM, red1 <r...@red1.org> wrote: > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> (sidenote - do not use ???? <-- it is spammy!!!! Only one ? will > >> >>>>>>> do! :) > >> >>>>>>> ) > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> Ok, the things that i feel we have achieved in the first one > >> >>>>>>> hundred > >> >>>>>>> days are: > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> 1. I realised who can eat the most goat at Saba arabic > restaurant > >> >>>>>>> during > >> >>>>>>> berbuka puasa > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> 2. I got to know alot of great open source enthusiasts, experts, > >> >>>>>>> supporters and developers, but not many famous contributors like > >> >>>>>>> the > >> >>>>>>> man > >> >>>>>>> with the goat :) > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> 3. I get to know that MDec can be exploited to help us. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> 4. OSDC is on its way to formation and establishing as the > >> >>>>>>> champion of > >> >>>>>>> FOSS on a formal and institutional way. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> 5. I know where to go to get good free makan! > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> red1 > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: > >> >>>>>>> > Apa yang telah kita capai???? > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> -- > >> >>>>> Sent from my mobile device > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > >> >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 > >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org > >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 > >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org > >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 > Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > http://blog.kagesenshi.org > 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. 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