On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin
<nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote:
> so where i come from? can you give detail or my history? i will be please if
> you can share my story to the world.

the best person to answer that is the body owner himself .. look into
the mirror ..

>
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin
>> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > i dont think you get the message. it's not meant for you.
>>
>> my message was not meant for you too, but for the list .. look at the To:
>> header
>>
>> >
>> > i just share word of wisdom that i apply for years. to get info and
>> > learn
>> > exp from other people is more important before i'm doing business or
>> > other
>> > things. otherwise, it will drain lots of money, time and other
>> > resources.
>>
>> like i said, I know where you come from ...
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin
>> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > +100 Rafe!
>> >> > Failure sure an OPTION for looser!
>> >> > Jika kita pernah kenal rakan yang sudah pernah masuk longkang, jatuh,
>> >> > tunggang terbalik, why must we do the same things? We can always get
>> >> > advice
>> >> > from them to avoid those thing!
>> >> >
>> >> > Winner learn from other experience and knowledge and minimise
>> >> > mistake.
>> >> > not
>> >> > to say afraid of failure but minimise it to achieve success faster
>> >> > than
>> >> > people before them.
>> >>
>> >> haha .. if failure is an option for losers, I wonder how silicon
>> >> valley able to come into being ..
>> >>
>> >> the camp where failure is not an option unable to find their own path.
>> >> chasing others, but not lead.
>> >>
>> >> ah well ... i know where y'all come from, so arguing is pointless
>> >> anyway
>> >> ..
>> >>
>> >> better for me to focus in the current angle which I've chosen and see
>> >> how far stuff will go ..
>> >>
>> >> peace be upon all of you
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Izhar Firdaus
>> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:14 AM, rafe azsnal <azs...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > failure is an option... YES most of us do learn when we fail.. but
>> >> >> > why
>> >> >> > should it be that way, centuries and eon we still at that par? we
>> >> >> > live
>> >> >> > by choices and that is something that the ALL MIGHT has given
>> >> >> > us...
>> >> >> > we
>> >> >> > learn and we adapt and choose not to fail, champion or not if you
>> >> >> > are
>> >> >> > willing to share the experience and knowledge you can actually
>> >> >> > minimize the failure and may not fail at all. i may not speak for
>> >> >> > all
>> >> >>
>> >> >> it is because we have come to the point that we fear failure, that
>> >> >> we
>> >> >> became afraid to diverge from the norm.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > but i speak for myself where failure is not longer an option to
>> >> >> > consider. why are we still having meeting, discussion, roundtable,
>> >> >> > champion, experience people and all those thing if failure is
>> >> >> > something to consider yet again? I don't ask for a complete
>> >> >> > perfection
>> >> >> > bro.. but i would like to see it that way. who doesn't right? my
>> >> >> > humble request is only to see it happen and effort to make it
>> >> >> > happen..
>> >> >> > but what ever it is you still have the right to think how ever you
>> >> >> > want it to be and the right to voice what ever that you want it to
>> >> >> > be...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Izhar Firdaus
>> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:17 AM, rafe azsnal <azs...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Red1, AJ, Raja and the rest,
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> what must we or them make mistake twice? or oven and over
>> >> >> >>> again??
>> >> >> >>> isn't the purpose of having the "Champion" or "Industry Capable
>> >> >> >>> Individual" to guide and teach to those who need it? this is why
>> >> >> >>> you
>> >> >> >>> are here reason being why they or we need people like YOU. none
>> >> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >>> less no one is perfect but perfection is made by those who have
>> >> >> >>> experience it. share those experience for those who need it and
>> >> >> >>> work
>> >> >> >>> together to achieve the goals...
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> failure and mistakes are blessings in disguise, the "champions"
>> >> >> >> can
>> >> >> >> only guide, but not guarantee success. true perfection only
>> >> >> >> happens
>> >> >> >> after thousands of failures. perfection without failure only
>> >> >> >> belongs
>> >> >> >> to The Creator. don't fear failure, go ahead and fail, and learn
>> >> >> >> from
>> >> >> >> it, like many of us.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 後はあなたの決めることよ
>> >> >> >> ato wa , anata no kimeru koto yo.
>> >> >> >> the rest, its up for you to decide
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> p/s: keep up the work, /me going to approach at a different
>> >> >> >> angle.
>> >> >> >> politics is not my game.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> but that is me with my two cents idea..
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> regards,
>> >> >> >>> //rafe
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sabrina Lim
>> >> >> >>> <sabr...@stronium.com>
>> >> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Hey guys,
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Good to know that you guys are very passionate in what you do.
>> >> >> >>>> This
>> >> >> >>>> is
>> >> >> >>>> something that I personally would love to see and help make a
>> >> >> >>>> difference
>> >> >> >>>> in our own country and subsequently, worldwide.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Let's keep our passion burning and keep striving for the best
>> >> >> >>>> regardless
>> >> >> >>>> of circumstances. Working together towards achieving a shared
>> >> >> >>>> goal.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> It's been a pleasure to know you guys. All the best.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Best regards,
>> >> >> >>>> Sabrina
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Well said raja!
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> On 13/09/2009, Raja Iskandar Shah <rajaiskand...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>> aj / red1
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> concern on developers noted.
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> sebab tu, saya mencadangkan supaya kita ambil projek rumah
>> >> >> >>>>>> anak
>> >> >> >>>>>> yatim
>> >> >> >>>>>> ulu
>> >> >> >>>>>> gadong sebagai salah satu program perintis. dari situ kita
>> >> >> >>>>>> boleh
>> >> >> >>>>>> cungkil
>> >> >> >>>>>> apa
>> >> >> >>>>>> yg kelab perlu buat untuk ubah manusia biasa kepada seorang
>> >> >> >>>>>> world
>> >> >> >>>>>> class
>> >> >> >>>>>> open
>> >> >> >>>>>> source developer. kita perlukan juga linuxvarisit sebagai
>> >> >> >>>>>> program
>> >> >> >>>>>> perintis
>> >> >> >>>>>> di peringkat ipta. perlukan juga adempiere coe sebagai
>> >> >> >>>>>> program
>> >> >> >>>>>> perintis
>> >> >> >>>>>> di
>> >> >> >>>>>> peringkat industri.
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> saya, red1 dan aj mempunyai pengalaman, idea dan bias
>> >> >> >>>>>> tersendiri
>> >> >> >>>>>> berkaitan
>> >> >> >>>>>> membimbing open source developers - tapi kami perlu take a
>> >> >> >>>>>> step
>> >> >> >>>>>> backward
>> >> >> >>>>>> and
>> >> >> >>>>>> let the club make the mistakes, errors, failures, heartaches,
>> >> >> >>>>>> and
>> >> >> >>>>>> successes
>> >> >> >>>>>> that each one of us have already done. sebab kami juga tidak
>> >> >> >>>>>> mempunyai
>> >> >> >>>>>> the
>> >> >> >>>>>> perfect answer - kami sendiri juga perlu belajar dari anda
>> >> >> >>>>>> semua
>> >> >> >>>>>> terutama
>> >> >> >>>>>> dari generasi muda dan belia.
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:18 AM, red1 <r...@red1.org> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> (sidenote - do not use ???? <-- it is spammy!!!! Only one ?
>> >> >> >>>>>>> will
>> >> >> >>>>>>> do! :)
>> >> >> >>>>>>> )
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> Ok, the things that i feel we have achieved in the first one
>> >> >> >>>>>>> hundred
>> >> >> >>>>>>> days are:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> 1. I realised who can eat the most goat at Saba arabic
>> >> >> >>>>>>> restaurant
>> >> >> >>>>>>> during
>> >> >> >>>>>>> berbuka puasa
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> 2. I got to know alot of great open source enthusiasts,
>> >> >> >>>>>>> experts,
>> >> >> >>>>>>> supporters and developers, but not many famous contributors
>> >> >> >>>>>>> like
>> >> >> >>>>>>> the
>> >> >> >>>>>>> man
>> >> >> >>>>>>> with the goat :)
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> 3. I get to know that MDec can be exploited to help us.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> 4. OSDC is on its way to formation and establishing as the
>> >> >> >>>>>>> champion of
>> >> >> >>>>>>> FOSS on a formal and institutional way.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> 5. I know where to go to get good free makan!
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> red1
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> Harisfazillah Jamel wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>> > Apa yang telah kita capai????
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> --
>> >> >> >>>>> Sent from my mobile device
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>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
>> >> >> >> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
>> >> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
>> >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
>> >> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
>> >> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331
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>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
>> >> >> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
>> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
>> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
>> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
>> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331
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>> >> --
>> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
>> >> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
>> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
>> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
>> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
>> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331
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>> --
>> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
>> Amano Hikaru  天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
>> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus
>> http://blog.kagesenshi.org
>> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866  5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331
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