On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: > what the point reveal to you? > i dont neither know nor like you anyway. haha. please go back to coding. > maybe it's good for 'upstream'.
haha .. the same applies to here .. yup,its good for upstream. What good for upstream is good for the rest of the world, what good for downstream(local) only good for locals. > > :) > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > i do know my self. but refer back to your previous reply, you said you >> > know >> > where i come from but i didnt know you before. so maybe you can explain >> > about it. >> >> if the owner himself refused to reveal .. then why should I ? >> >> no point continuing this silly thread .. /me goes back to coding .. >> >> > >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > so where i come from? can you give detail or my history? i will be >> >> > please if >> >> > you can share my story to the world. >> >> >> >> the best person to answer that is the body owner himself .. look into >> >> the mirror .. >> >> >> >> > >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> > i dont think you get the message. it's not meant for you. >> >> >> >> >> >> my message was not meant for you too, but for the list .. look at >> >> >> the >> >> >> To: >> >> >> header >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > i just share word of wisdom that i apply for years. to get info >> >> >> > and >> >> >> > learn >> >> >> > exp from other people is more important before i'm doing business >> >> >> > or >> >> >> > other >> >> >> > things. otherwise, it will drain lots of money, time and other >> >> >> > resources. >> >> >> >> >> >> like i said, I know where you come from ... >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >> >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > +100 Rafe! >> >> >> >> > Failure sure an OPTION for looser! >> >> >> >> > Jika kita pernah kenal rakan yang sudah pernah masuk longkang, >> >> >> >> > jatuh, >> >> >> >> > tunggang terbalik, why must we do the same things? We can >> >> >> >> > always >> >> >> >> > get >> >> >> >> > advice >> >> >> >> > from them to avoid those thing! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Winner learn from other experience and knowledge and minimise >> >> >> >> > mistake. >> >> >> >> > not >> >> >> >> > to say afraid of failure but minimise it to achieve success >> >> >> >> > faster >> >> >> >> > than >> >> >> >> > people before them. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> haha .. if failure is an option for losers, I wonder how silicon >> >> >> >> valley able to come into being .. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> the camp where failure is not an option unable to find their own >> >> >> >> path. >> >> >> >> chasing others, but not lead. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ah well ... i know where y'all come from, so arguing is pointless >> >> >> >> anyway >> >> >> >> .. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> better for me to focus in the current angle which I've chosen and >> >> >> >> see >> >> >> >> how far stuff will go .. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> peace be upon all of you >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:14 AM, rafe azsnal >> >> >> >> >> <azs...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > failure is an option... YES most of us do learn when we >> >> >> >> >> > fail.. >> >> >> >> >> > but >> >> >> >> >> > why >> >> >> >> >> > should it be that way, centuries and eon we still at that >> >> >> >> >> > par? >> >> >> >> >> > we >> >> >> >> >> > live >> >> >> >> >> > by choices and that is something that the ALL MIGHT has >> >> >> >> >> > given >> >> >> >> >> > us... >> >> >> >> >> > we >> >> >> >> >> > learn and we adapt and choose not to fail, champion or not >> >> >> >> >> > if >> >> >> >> >> > you >> >> >> >> >> > are >> >> >> >> >> > willing to share the experience and knowledge you can >> >> >> >> >> > actually >> >> >> >> >> > minimize the failure and may not fail at all. i may not >> >> >> >> >> > speak >> >> >> >> >> > for >> >> >> >> >> > all >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> it is because we have come to the point that we fear failure, >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> we >> >> >> >> >> became afraid to diverge from the norm. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > but i speak for myself where failure is not longer an option >> >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> >> > consider. why are we still having meeting, discussion, >> >> >> >> >> > roundtable, >> >> >> >> >> > champion, experience people and all those thing if failure >> >> >> >> >> > is >> >> >> >> >> > something to consider yet again? I don't ask for a complete >> >> >> >> >> > perfection >> >> >> >> >> > bro.. but i would like to see it that way. who doesn't >> >> >> >> >> > right? >> >> >> >> >> > my >> >> >> >> >> > humble request is only to see it happen and effort to make >> >> >> >> >> > it >> >> >> >> >> > happen.. >> >> >> >> >> > but what ever it is you still have the right to think how >> >> >> >> >> > ever >> >> >> >> >> > you >> >> >> >> >> > want it to be and the right to voice what ever that you want >> >> >> >> >> > it >> >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> >> > be... >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:17 AM, rafe azsnal >> >> >> >> >> >> <azs...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Red1, AJ, Raja and the rest, >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> what must we or them make mistake twice? or oven and over >> >> >> >> >> >>> again?? >> >> >> >> >> >>> isn't the purpose of having the "Champion" or "Industry >> >> >> >> >> >>> Capable >> >> >> >> >> >>> Individual" to guide and teach to those who need it? this >> >> >> >> >> >>> is >> >> >> >> >> >>> why >> >> >> >> >> >>> you >> >> >> >> >> >>> are here reason being why they or we need people like YOU. >> >> >> >> >> >>> none >> >> >> >> >> >>> the >> >> >> >> >> >>> less no one is perfect but perfection is made by those who >> >> >> >> >> >>> have >> >> >> >> >> >>> experience it. share those experience for those who need >> >> >> >> >> >>> it >> >> >> >> >> >>> and >> >> >> >> >> >>> work >> >> >> >> >> >>> together to achieve the goals... >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> failure and mistakes are blessings in disguise, the >> >> >> >> >> >> "champions" >> >> >> >> >> >> can >> >> >> >> >> >> only guide, but not guarantee success. true perfection only >> >> >> >> >> >> happens >> >> >> >> >> >> after thousands of failures. perfection without failure >> >> >> >> >> >> only >> >> >> >> >> >> belongs >> >> >> >> >> >> to The Creator. don't fear failure, go ahead and fail, and >> >> >> >> >> >> learn >> >> >> >> >> >> from >> >> >> >> >> >> it, like many of us. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 後はあなたの決めることよ >> >> >> >> >> >> ato wa , anata no kimeru koto yo. >> >> >> >> >> >> the rest, its up for you to decide >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> p/s: keep up the work, /me going to approach at a different >> >> >> >> >> >> angle. >> >> >> >> >> >> politics is not my game. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> but that is me with my two cents idea.. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> regards, >> >> >> >> >> >>> //rafe >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sabrina Lim >> >> >> >> >> >>> <sabr...@stronium.com> >> >> >> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Hey guys, >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Good to know that you guys are very passionate in what >> >> >> >> >> >>>> you >> >> >> >> >> >>>> do. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> This >> >> >> >> >> >>>> is >> >> >> >> >> >>>> something that I personally would love to see and help >> >> >> >> >> >>>> make >> >> >> >> >> >>>> a >> >> >> >> >> >>>> difference >> >> >> >> >> >>>> in our own country and subsequently, worldwide. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Let's keep our passion burning and keep striving for the >> >> >> >> >> >>>> best >> >> >> >> >> >>>> regardless >> >> >> >> >> >>>> of circumstances. Working together towards achieving a >> >> >> >> >> >>>> shared >> >> >> >> >> >>>> goal. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's been a pleasure to know you guys. All the best. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Best regards, >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Sabrina >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Well said raja! >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> On 13/09/2009, Raja Iskandar Shah >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> <rajaiskand...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> aj / red1 >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> concern on developers noted. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebab tu, saya mencadangkan supaya kita ambil projek >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> rumah >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> anak >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> yatim >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> ulu >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> gadong sebagai salah satu program perintis. dari situ >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kita >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> boleh >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> cungkil >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> apa >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> yg kelab perlu buat untuk ubah manusia biasa kepada >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> seorang >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> world >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> class >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> open >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> source developer. kita perlukan juga linuxvarisit >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebagai >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> program >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> di peringkat ipta. perlukan juga adempiere coe sebagai >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> program >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> di >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> peringkat industri. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> saya, red1 dan aj mempunyai pengalaman, idea dan bias >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> tersendiri >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> berkaitan >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> membimbing open source developers - tapi kami perlu >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> take a >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> step >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> backward >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> and >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> let the club make the mistakes, errors, failures, >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> heartaches, >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> and >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> successes >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> that each one of us have already done. sebab kami juga >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> tidak >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> mempunyai >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> the >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perfect answer - kami sendiri juga perlu belajar dari >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> anda >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> semua >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> terutama >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari generasi muda dan belia. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:18 AM, red1 <r...@red1.org> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> (sidenote - do not use ???? <-- it is spammy!!!! Only >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> one >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> ? >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> will >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> do! :) >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> ) >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Ok, the things that i feel we have achieved in the >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> first >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> one >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> hundred >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> days are: >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 1. I realised who can eat the most goat at Saba arabic >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> restaurant >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> during >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> berbuka puasa >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 2. I got to know alot of great open source >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> enthusiasts, >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> experts, >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> supporters and developers, but not many famous >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> contributors >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> like >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> man >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> with the goat :) >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 3. I get to know that MDec can be exploited to help >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> us. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 4. OSDC is on its way to formation and establishing as >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> champion of >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> FOSS on a formal and institutional way. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 5. I know where to go to get good free makan! >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> red1 >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> > Apa yang telah kita capai???? >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> -- >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Sent from my mobile device >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >> >> >> >> >> >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >> >> >> >> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >> >> >> >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >> >> >> >> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >> >> >> >> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >> >> >> >> >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >> >> >> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >> >> >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >> >> >> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >> >> >> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >> >> >> >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >> >> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >> >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >> >> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >> >> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >> >> >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >> >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >> >> > > > > > -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. 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