On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: > it's good for you then. but shame you company didnt even use your upstream > project instead use others. > http://www.inigo-tech.com/technologies
www.fbi.org www.nasa.org and many others ... the upstream is not Inigo , the upstream is Plone, FreeBSD, Ubuntu, Fedora. > > then u should fight for your upstream with you partner 1st before poke > others > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:22 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Izhar Firdaus <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> > <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> sure. that's why there are people yang take care the downstream aka >> >> local >> >> nie. wlpn xsepopular upstream. if semua buat upstream; seumpama semua >> >> org >> >> nak jd kaya, kerja hebat2 dan xde org nak keje cuci sampah, so kotor la >> >> tempat2 local nie. >> > >> > for each their strength and weaknesses. I want to pull people to >> > upstream, but they refused. So I guess this place is not my game. >> > Would be better to just let this one flow and see where they lead >> > themselves to. >> >> and what upstream flows downstream , rather than just helping a >> specific group of downstream, i choose to have my stuff flow to other >> downstreams on other places by contributing upstream. >> >> > >> > Of course, i'll poke once a while looking for anyone who want to go >> > upstream. >> > >> >> >> >> everything is up to individual and their capabilities. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >> <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >>> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> > what the point reveal to you? >> >>> > i dont neither know nor like you anyway. haha. please go back to >> >>> > coding. >> >>> > maybe it's good for 'upstream'. >> >>> >> >>> haha .. the same applies to here .. >> >>> >> >>> yup,its good for upstream. What good for upstream is good for the rest >> >>> of the world, what good for downstream(local) only good for locals. >> >>> >> >>> > >> >>> > :) >> >>> > >> >>> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >>> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >>> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> > i do know my self. but refer back to your previous reply, you >> >>> >> > said >> >>> >> > you >> >>> >> > know >> >>> >> > where i come from but i didnt know you before. so maybe you can >> >>> >> > explain >> >>> >> > about it. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> if the owner himself refused to reveal .. then why should I ? >> >>> >> >> >>> >> no point continuing this silly thread .. /me goes back to coding .. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >>> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >>> >> > wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >>> >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >> > so where i come from? can you give detail or my history? i >> >>> >> >> > will be >> >>> >> >> > please if >> >>> >> >> > you can share my story to the world. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> the best person to answer that is the body owner himself .. look >> >>> >> >> into >> >>> >> >> the mirror .. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >>> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >>> >> >> > wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >>> >> >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> > i dont think you get the message. it's not meant for you. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> my message was not meant for you too, but for the list .. >> >>> >> >> >> look at >> >>> >> >> >> the >> >>> >> >> >> To: >> >>> >> >> >> header >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > i just share word of wisdom that i apply for years. to get >> >>> >> >> >> > info >> >>> >> >> >> > and >> >>> >> >> >> > learn >> >>> >> >> >> > exp from other people is more important before i'm doing >> >>> >> >> >> > business >> >>> >> >> >> > or >> >>> >> >> >> > other >> >>> >> >> >> > things. otherwise, it will drain lots of money, time and >> >>> >> >> >> > other >> >>> >> >> >> > resources. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> like i said, I know where you come from ... >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >>> >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >>> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin >> >>> >> >> >> >> <nasrula...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> >> > +100 Rafe! >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Failure sure an OPTION for looser! >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Jika kita pernah kenal rakan yang sudah pernah masuk >> >>> >> >> >> >> > longkang, >> >>> >> >> >> >> > jatuh, >> >>> >> >> >> >> > tunggang terbalik, why must we do the same things? We >> >>> >> >> >> >> > can >> >>> >> >> >> >> > always >> >>> >> >> >> >> > get >> >>> >> >> >> >> > advice >> >>> >> >> >> >> > from them to avoid those thing! >> >>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Winner learn from other experience and knowledge and >> >>> >> >> >> >> > minimise >> >>> >> >> >> >> > mistake. >> >>> >> >> >> >> > not >> >>> >> >> >> >> > to say afraid of failure but minimise it to achieve >> >>> >> >> >> >> > success >> >>> >> >> >> >> > faster >> >>> >> >> >> >> > than >> >>> >> >> >> >> > people before them. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> haha .. if failure is an option for losers, I wonder how >> >>> >> >> >> >> silicon >> >>> >> >> >> >> valley able to come into being .. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> the camp where failure is not an option unable to find >> >>> >> >> >> >> their >> >>> >> >> >> >> own >> >>> >> >> >> >> path. >> >>> >> >> >> >> chasing others, but not lead. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> ah well ... i know where y'all come from, so arguing is >> >>> >> >> >> >> pointless >> >>> >> >> >> >> anyway >> >>> >> >> >> >> .. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> better for me to focus in the current angle which I've >> >>> >> >> >> >> chosen >> >>> >> >> >> >> and >> >>> >> >> >> >> see >> >>> >> >> >> >> how far stuff will go .. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> peace be upon all of you >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >>> >> >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:14 AM, rafe azsnal >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> <azs...@gmail.com> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > failure is an option... YES most of us do learn when >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > fail.. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > why >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > should it be that way, centuries and eon we still at >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > that >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > par? >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > live >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > by choices and that is something that the ALL MIGHT >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > has >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > given >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > us... >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > we >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > learn and we adapt and choose not to fail, champion >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > or >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > not >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > if >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > are >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > willing to share the experience and knowledge you can >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > actually >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > minimize the failure and may not fail at all. i may >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > not >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > speak >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > for >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > all >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> it is because we have come to the point that we fear >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> failure, >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> that >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> we >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> became afraid to diverge from the norm. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but i speak for myself where failure is not longer an >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > option >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > consider. why are we still having meeting, >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > discussion, >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > roundtable, >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > champion, experience people and all those thing if >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > failure >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > is >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > something to consider yet again? I don't ask for a >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > complete >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > perfection >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > bro.. but i would like to see it that way. who >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > doesn't >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > right? >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > my >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > humble request is only to see it happen and effort to >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > make >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > it >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > happen.. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > but what ever it is you still have the right to think >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > how >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > ever >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > want it to be and the right to voice what ever that >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > you >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > want >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > it >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > to >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > be... >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Izhar Firdaus >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > <kagesenshi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:17 AM, rafe azsnal >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <azs...@gmail.com> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Red1, AJ, Raja and the rest, >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> what must we or them make mistake twice? or oven >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> and >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> over >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> again?? >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> isn't the purpose of having the "Champion" or >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> "Industry >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Capable >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Individual" to guide and teach to those who need >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> it? >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> this >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> is >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> why >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> you >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> are here reason being why they or we need people >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> like >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> YOU. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> none >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> the >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> less no one is perfect but perfection is made by >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> those >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> who >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> have >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> experience it. share those experience for those who >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> need >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> it >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> and >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> work >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> together to achieve the goals... >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> failure and mistakes are blessings in disguise, the >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "champions" >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> can >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only guide, but not guarantee success. true >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> perfection >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> happens >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> after thousands of failures. perfection without >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> failure >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> only >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> belongs >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> to The Creator. don't fear failure, go ahead and >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> fail, >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> learn >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> from >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> it, like many of us. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 後はあなたの決めることよ >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ato wa , anata no kimeru koto yo. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the rest, its up for you to decide >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> p/s: keep up the work, /me going to approach at a >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> different >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> angle. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> politics is not my game. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> but that is me with my two cents idea.. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> regards, >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> //rafe >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Sabrina Lim >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> <sabr...@stronium.com> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Hey guys, >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Good to know that you guys are very passionate in >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> what >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> you >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> do. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> This >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> is >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> something that I personally would love to see and >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> help >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> make >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> a >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> difference >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> in our own country and subsequently, worldwide. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Let's keep our passion burning and keep striving >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> for >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> the >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> best >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> regardless >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> of circumstances. Working together towards >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> achieving a >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> shared >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> goal. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> It's been a pleasure to know you guys. All the >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> best. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Best regards, >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Sabrina >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Well said raja! >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> On 13/09/2009, Raja Iskandar Shah >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> <rajaiskand...@gmail.com> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> aj / red1 >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> concern on developers noted. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebab tu, saya mencadangkan supaya kita ambil >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> projek >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> rumah >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> anak >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> yatim >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> ulu >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> gadong sebagai salah satu program perintis. dari >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> situ >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kita >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> boleh >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> cungkil >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> apa >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> yg kelab perlu buat untuk ubah manusia biasa >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kepada >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> seorang >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> world >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> class >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> open >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> source developer. kita perlukan juga >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> linuxvarisit >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebagai >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> program >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> di peringkat ipta. perlukan juga adempiere coe >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> sebagai >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> program >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perintis >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> di >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> peringkat industri. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> saya, red1 dan aj mempunyai pengalaman, idea dan >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> bias >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> tersendiri >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> berkaitan >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> membimbing open source developers - tapi kami >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perlu >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> take a >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> step >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> backward >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> and >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> let the club make the mistakes, errors, >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> failures, >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> heartaches, >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> and >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> successes >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> that each one of us have already done. sebab >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> kami >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> juga >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> tidak >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> mempunyai >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> the >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> perfect answer - kami sendiri juga perlu belajar >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> anda >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> semua >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> terutama >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> dari generasi muda dan belia. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:18 AM, red1 >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> <r...@red1.org> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> (sidenote - do not use ???? <-- it is >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> spammy!!!! >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Only >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> one >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> ? >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> will >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> do! :) >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> ) >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Ok, the things that i feel we have achieved in >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> first >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> one >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> hundred >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> days are: >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 1. I realised who can eat the most goat at Saba >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> arabic >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> restaurant >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> during >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> berbuka puasa >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 2. I got to know alot of great open source >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> enthusiasts, >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> experts, >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> supporters and developers, but not many famous >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> contributors >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> like >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> man >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> with the goat :) >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 3. I get to know that MDec can be exploited to >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> help >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> us. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 4. OSDC is on its way to formation and >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> establishing >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> as >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> champion of >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> FOSS on a formal and institutional way. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> 5. I know where to go to get good free makan! >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> red1 >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> > Apa yang telah kita capai???? >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> -- >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Sent from my mobile device >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >> >>> >> >> 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>> >> > > >> >>> >> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >>> >> >> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >> >>> >> >> >> >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >> >>> >> >> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >> >>> >> >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >> >>> >> >> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >> >>> >> >> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >>> >> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >> >>> >> >> >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >> >>> >> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >> >>> >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >> >>> >> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >> >>> >> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> -- >> >>> >> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >> >>> >> >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >> >>> >> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >> >>> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >> >>> >> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >> >>> >> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -- >> >>> >> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >> >>> >> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >> >>> >> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador >> >>> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus >> >>> >> http://blog.kagesenshi.org >> >>> >> 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail >> >>> Amano Hikaru 天野晃 「あまの ひかる」 >> >>> Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador 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