Thanks Marcus. it's a good idea. I want to deal with audio/video live
and on demand solutions.




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On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Marcus <mar...@python.my> wrote:
> Hi Hasanuddin,
>
> You can deploy your solution on VMware on Windows Server if its linux based.
> If they ask why, you say "This is virtualization in action, fully
> supported by Windows Server"
> If its PHP based app, just load in the WAMP package on Windows, works the
> same.
>
>
> Marcus.
>
>
> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar wrote:
>
> I am completely agree with Marcus, they rather run Win Server for
> various reasons. I just deal a project from a Malaysian broadcasting
> company for a few solutions. The deal came smoothly but I got a few
> words from the sysadmin, "You must do them on Windows Server because I
> don't know Linux"... I rather choose Linux for the base because of
> hardware's drivers and sotfwares. So how do you think? any suggestion
> to deal with him?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
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>
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>
>
> On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Marcus <mar...@python.my> wrote:
>
>
> Welcome to the other real world.
> You have to face it, for most normal  IT admins today, they have so much
> to do, they rather run Win Server of which any SI companies are able to
> support
> and of which the features are rock solid. When something screws up, its
> bound to be in the knowledge base of MSDN and fixes are already in
> Autoupdate.
> Digging forums is a complete waste of time unless its your hobby or
> personal interest in the project, at the end if someone has to pay, they
> don't really care
> if its  open source or not, after all, how many are programmers at heart
> or have time to even look at the source codes. In Windows, when you ask
> for support
> if this guy can't do it, there are thousands lining up to serve you and
> each with a low price, as an end user or Admin you get the power to choose.
>
> What is FREE initially, might not be cheaper in bottom line.
> Read :
> http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid39_gci1332528,00.html
> Read the attached pdf of a study of Windows Server vs RedHat cost in
> near years running, *yeah its sounds bias, but then it always does when
> ur on the other side
>
>  From what i've seen, Linux manages to cannabalize its own similar
> corporate adoption , eg, replacing AIXs, Unix or other expensive Unix
> based systems,
> replacing Windows Server is hardly true, maybe in hosting companies and
> that is just due to costing. I have talked to several hosting companies
> in Malaysia, if SmarterMail was
> cheaper, they won't even use linux even though its free, the
> "proprietary" Smartermail outdone the linux qmail/postfix and support is
> a breeze. (no, they don't favor Exchange even
> if its becomes cheaper, qualification to manage Exchange server = high
> cost).
>
> - cheers
>
>
> Harisfazillah Jamel wrote:
>
>
> Rasa sedih pula bila rakan dalam sebuah agensi beritahu dia perlu
> tukarkan Linux Centos yang saya pasang lama dahulu kepada Windows
> server. I will not against it because we have to acknowledge one
> thing.
>
> Im keep on hearing to people move to another software or os due to
> support issses.
>
> We dont have I single point of contact that can be a help to them.
>
> They don't care it Redhat, Novell or Canonical what they want is a
> single point of contact.
>
> Yes. We have e-marketplace OSCC MAMPU. But it still just a directory
> listing. What we need a toll number that people can talk to and get
> more information about Open Source where and who they can get help...
>
> RTFM is not working. Don't ask me to ask them to read the RTFM. We
> talking about losing market share after years of promotion due to our
> ignorance or let say it. Our egos...
>
> We keep on asking OSS users to read RTFM but its not real help to them...
>
> We need one centre or one community that willing to answer phone
> calls, email or visit sites, like any bussiness will do to keep
> customers still interest. We need marketing and sales team virtually
> in our OSS community.
>
>
>
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> >
>

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