Also try being on Robert or Paul's end

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Over the years( eek getting on for 20 ) were I have been active on GL,
Performer list, Vega, Vega Prime, OGL and OSG list among many providing
including providing FAQ's a vis-sim.com and else were etc

Regularly  I get demands for help not request buts demands and which can get
actually quite abusive at time  because I'm not willing to spend hours
writing applications, samples and examples or why I won't create this flight
file for someone, it amazes how people want you do do stuff for free so that
they can make money or a living of your time.....   

I'm sure Robert and other get their fair share of these things as well

Arrrrghhhhhhh, never mind the replies when you tell them that yes I can help
on these time comsuing request, heres my rates ...... If it was not so
annoying it might even be funny....

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert
Osfield
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 5:55 AM
To: osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org
Subject: Re: [osg-users] Tutorials

One thing we can be sure of is that they will *never* be enough
documentation for everybody.  This isn't an OSG specific issue, it isn't a
closed source vs open source issue, it isn't even an IT specific issue, it
applies to everything in life.

As Winston Churchil said (this is from memory so It might be little
mis-phrased):

"One can please all of the people some of time, or some of the people all of
the time, but you can never please all the people all the time".

--

I occasionally come across emails on osg-users from users that appear to me
to be almost asking for others to write their program for them, to teach
them every little detail of what they need to know.  You write code and
publishing it for free and with an  open license, you provide free support
and spend you time helping people out, yet this still isn't enough for some,
the mere act of giving a great deal seems to in somehow mean that you owe
others even more.

So... I feel for Paul Martz, he's put a big effort into to getting the Quick
Start Guide, climbed a peak, taken a short rest, but now its a case of "well
actually that peak you climbed was just a foothill, you need to climb this
great mountain beyond, and oh BTW can you do it for free too".

We are a community, so we don't walk alone, one must carry ones own weight
though, otherwise you can drag others back.  We can all contribute in
different ways.  Directly by helping write the books and tutorials.  Or by
*purchasing* the books rather than just downloading the free pdf.

Robert.
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