I was one of the very tiny number of real "overseas" persons at the Moscow OSonOS in 2006. As the closing session dragged on, it seemed pointless to express further opinions about the importance of OSonOS being an "International" gathering, so I ended up saying nothing. It seemed to me that most of those present did not know - and hence were perhaps unable to honour - the pattern that has emerged in recent years of "moving across the sea". And a 2008 Berlin gathering - which would have to be very good to match the earlier OSonOS in Potsdam - would also not address that pattern, IMHO. But I am just one voice in the gathering of participants. Though we have yet to receive any meaningful information about travel arrangements, accommodation options, costs, hosting, language challenges, local transport, visa requirements for international visitors, local security and safety factors, catering, computing options, airport procedures, etc (which will no doubt emerge on January 21 as promised), I most certainly hope to be present in Kiev (or wherever the gathering occurs), and have tentative travel plans in place now. After Kiev - I would hope a less-than-European site might emerge, and then back to Europe/Asia after that, perhaps. Maybe Edinburgh or Berlin. Just an observation from a long way away. Cheers and blessings, BRIAN (from Melbourne, Australia)
Fr Brian S. Bainbridge 0412 111 525 Skype: briansbain -----Original Message----- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Herrmann Sent: Friday, 19 January 2007 10:16 AM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: SV: Michael Pannwitz's comment about OSonOS 2008 in Berlin I agree with you Lisa, to me it´s a very rich and refreshing opportunity to come to the International OSonOS each year when I can. I also think that the international community gains from having it swimming across oceans. So better bring your irresistible offer to Kiev...and we´ll see what happens. And why not plan a mid-term global-virtual-OSonOS happening in all the regions of the world - connected in faboulus ways... whoever has the passion for getting it started...go for it. Maybe for 2008 we could plan regional gatherings the same date but in that case my suggestion is, not too close to the International physical OSonOS - wherever that´s gonna be. Warmest regards to you Lisa and everyone else Thomas Herrmann -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] För Marei Kiele Skickat: den 18 januari 2007 19:22 Till: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Ämne: Re: Michael Pannwitz's comment about OSonOS 2008 in Berlin Hello folks, I have been silent on this list for a while and I am only writing a short comment on this topic. I have been to Halifax and loved the decision making process there ~ and "voted" for Moscow in the end. I didn't go because something else became more important to me. When I heard that in Moscow the decision was Kiev I thought: "Geographically that's pretty ("too") close ~ okay, those who cared where there and decided ~ don't complain, Marei." Last weekend I participated in the "Lernwerkstatt" in Berlin and there I heard about the plan to host the next OSonOS in Berlin and my immediate reaction was "NO, this would be incest!!" So I strongly support the tradition of having THE OSonOS moving around the world. And I can tell you, having it in Berlin would be very comfortable for me, just 2,5 hours by train. But I rather make sure the community stays intercontinental and we have rich annual OSonOSes all around the world. And regarding having international OSonOSes at the same time: In OS I love the movement of morning news / evening news (whole group) and breakout session (small groups). If it was only breakout sessions I would miss a lot. As I would with many OSonOSes all over the world. HO (meant the North American Native Indian way). Marei * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist