I had never heard of BarCamp. I was smiling too as I read Martin’s response. If anyone mentions it to me, I will just roll my eyes :-)
Amanda Amanda Bucklow Independent Commercial Mediator > On 23 Aug 2016, at 20:51, Eva P Svensson via OSList > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > Martin, > I smile when I read your text - I can almost feel your irritation over > comparing OST with Barcamp :-) > Thank you all who had answered - I now think that I will not ever say that > it’s like OST, but that they had borrowed a few thing but got them > backwards…(oops) > :o) > Eva > > Bästa hälsningar > > Eva P Svensson > > EPS Human Invest AB > Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc > Medlem i Beyond Performance Group > > "Verksamhetsutveckling genom människor skapar långsiktigt välmående företag > och organisationer" > > Anåsbergsvägen 22, 439 34 ONSALA > Besöksadress; Norra Allégatan 8, Göteborg > Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50 > www.epshumaninvest.se <http://www.epshumaninvest.se/> > Skype: eva.p.svensson > Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB > twitter:@EvaPSvensson > > "Jag kan inte lära dig något. Allt jag kan göra är att ställa frågor till > dig, och låta dig själv finna svaren." Sokrates > > > > > > > > >> 23 aug. 2016 kl. 11:42 skrev Martin Roell via OSList >> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>: >> >> Eva P Svensson via OSList wrote: >>> Dear friends, >>> Today I heard a woman talking about setting up a meeting using BarCamp as a >>> method. I asked her to explain to me what it was and when she did that I >>> had a hard time finding the differences between that and Open Space. One >>> thing was that, as she explained it, the time slots were 45 minutes then 15 >>> minutes pause then new 45 minutes and so on. Otherwise it seemed more or >>> less like copy and paste from Open Space. Anyone who knows more about it? >>> :o) >> >> I have attended a good number of Barcamps and OST meetings, and I >> believe I even vented my frustration about BarCamps on this list before. :) >> >> To make a long story short, a few points of how BarCamps are different. >> (This may be just my limited sample of Barcamps held in Germany in the >> last 4 years.) >> >> * No circle at the beginning >> * A ritual "say your name and your three #tags" instead before things >> start (stopping the flow, boring the hell out of everyone, etc etc) >> * When announcing a session, one asks for a raise of hands to gauge >> interest. >> * The "Facilitator" then allocates you a room ("thank you for announcing >> your session so cutely. Here's a room for you.") >> * and sometimes STICKS THE PAPER INTO THE SCHEDULE FOR YOU (you don't >> get to choose the room for yourself: they do it for you!) >> * Facilitators generally make looong remarks about BARCAMP before things >> start and ask for a raise of hands, how many people have attended >> BARCAMPS before, and how many (more is better) >> * Facilitators inform people that BARCAMP is AMAAAAZING because: YOU GET >> TO PARTICPATE! WOW!!1 They make the event more amazing by talking about >> how amazing it will be (preventing anyone from getting to work). >> * Much of the butterfly conversation is about BARCAMP and how AMAZING it is. >> * There is usually no issue, but a "theme" for the event; what gets >> posted are not "issues" but "sessions". (In the Barcamps I attended, not >> a single session was posted that had a question mark in it.) >> * "Sessions" are often teaching, delivered by extroverts >> >> One a more serious note: >> Barcamp differs from OST culturally, in the sense that it is often used >> for what I'd call "participatory teaching / knowledge sharing events": >> In Germany, they seem to become popular with companies now, as a way to >> save education budgets ("our staff can now share knowledge with >> eachother! Using BARCAMP!! ITS CHEAPER THAN SEMINARS!!!!"), whereas OST >> functions... hm, better? more naturally? - as a problem solving... >> thing. Or so. >> >> Or, very simply and more personal: Everytime I hear someone say >> something along "Barcamp is not so different from Open Space, is it?" I >> get quite mad, because I have often seen amazing things happen in Open >> Space events, and never seen anything amazing happen in BarCamps. >> >> YMMV. >> >> Martin >> >> -- >> Martin Röll, Görlitzer Str. 25, 01099 Dresden, Germany >> +49 178 4984743, @martinroell, http://www.roell.net <http://www.roell.net/> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
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