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> On 24. aug. 2016, at 17.33, Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Beautiful... and we aint in a poetry contest, or what? > Them critters pop up whenever it pleases them... > Whatever happens its the only thing that could have > > mmp > >> On 24.08.2016 17:25, Toke MĂžller wrote: >> Ah some poetryâŠâŠ >> >> :) >> >> Open spaceâŠ.yesterday - today and tomorrow...... >> >> >> What is it ? what is it ? >> >> to go to the center >> and then leave it >> open >> >> to sit at the rim >> enjoying >> - the space >> - the place >> - the now >> >> what touches my heart ? >> so deep and free >> to let myself and others >> so spaciously >> free >> to be ? >> >> Toke >> >> Toke Paludan Moeller, CEO & Process host >> >> InterChange Aps >> >> Stengaardsvej 5 A, 8600 Silkeborg, Denmark >> >> Vat Number: 1350 6035 >> >> Toke - Mobile +45 2616 6919 - Monica - Mobile +45 2072 1019 >> >> Skype name: tokemoeller >> >> www.interchange.dk <http://www.interchange.dk> >> >> intercha...@interchange.dk <mailto:intercha...@interchange.dk> >> >> http://interchange.dk/calender/ >> >> >>> On 24. aug. 2016, at 17.15, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList >>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote: >>> >>> How would it do in our poetry contest? >>> >>> mmp >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 24.08.2016 16:54, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote: >>>> Who says the Brits donât have a sense of humor? âSelf-Organizing in a >>>> pure form is like a beautiful >>>> >>>> soft hand moving in the morning sun. OST is a light and fragrant hand >>>> cream. Bar Camp is an arctic glove.â â Or is this poetry? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ho >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Winter Address >>>> >>>> 7808 River Falls Dr. >>>> >>>> Potomac, MD 20854 >>>> >>>> 301-365-2093 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Summer Address >>>> >>>> 189 Beaucauire Ave >>>> >>>> Camden, ME 04843 >>>> >>>> 207 763-3261 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Websites >>>> >>>> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com> >>>> >>>> www.ho-image.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:*OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf >>>> Of *paul levy via OSList >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 7:43 AM >>>> *To:* Barry Owen; World wide Open Space Technology email list >>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] What's the difference between BarCamp and OST? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear all >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bar Camp, along with many similar processes, is an attempt to open >>>> space. Compared to OST it contains more intervention (facilitation and >>>> control) and that "one more thing to do" can limit space opening because >>>> space tends to open more effectively for emergent self-organisation when >>>> we do one thing less - minimal intervention. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> OST tends towards minimum intervention (especially when we stop fussing >>>> over where the pens go and stop adding little bits of dogmatic >>>> facilitation to it). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Everything ultimately is self-organisation, but it depends on which self >>>> or selves are doing the organising. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Self-Organizing in a pure form is like a beautiful >>>> >>>> soft hand moving in the morning sun. OST is a light and fragrant hand >>>> cream. Bar Camp is an arctic glove. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Warm wishes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Paul Levy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, 24 August 2016, Barry Owen via OSList >>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I could write a veritable book about my experiences with BarCamp here in >>>> nashville, TN in the past 6 years. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It's pseudo self organization at best . . . There's a tip of the hat to >>>> unconference at the beginning as folks arrive and are invited to write >>>> down "Things they want to Learn" and "things they want to teach". >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The "organizers" then fill the schedule while the participants mingle, >>>> and the event starts (as aforementioned) with a very brief introduction. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Most sessions are "teaching" and not open dialog and many are pre-loaded >>>> speakers who were specifically invited to come with all expenses paid. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> my understanding is that BarCamp was initially designed as a "Technology >>>> Conference" for computer Geeks, so perhaps it 'works" better with Geeks. >>>> Using it for other other purposes (Organizational >>>> Development/transformation etc) is an unintended use of the original >>>> format. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So - I think BarCamp serves the intended purpose well - and I believe >>>> some misguided folks are attempting to plug a square hole with a round >>>> peg thinking that it's interchangeable with OST >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My 2 cents >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This ain't Open Space! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *_Barry Owen_* >>>> */Real Estate Strategist/* >>>> >>>> Founder/Principal Broker >>>> >>>> *Pareto Realty, LLC *\pÉ-ËrÄ-(Ë)tĆ\ >>>> <http://www.merriam-webster.com/audio.php?file=bixpar02&word=Pareto&text=%5Cp%C9%99-%3CSPAN%20class%3Dunicode%3E%CB%88%3C%2FSPAN%3Er%C4%81-(%3CSPAN%20class%3Dunicode%3E%CB%8C%3C%2FSPAN%3E)t%C5%8D%5C> >>>> >>>> *The Vital Few* >>>> >>>> 4012 Hillsboro Pike #5 >>>> >>>> Nashville, TN 37215 >>>> >>>> Office: 615-502-2080 >>>> >>>> Connect: *615-568-2123* >>>> >>>> Twitter <http://twitter.com/#!/barryowen>, Facebook >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/barryo06>, Linkedin >>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=15553654&trk=tab_pro> >>>> >>>> WhyJoinParetoRealty.com >>>> <http://whyjoinparetorealty.com/> <http://whyjoinparetorealty.com/> >>>> >>>> ParetoRealty.com <http://paretorealty.com/> <http://paretorealty.com/> >>>> >>>> *BarryOwensBlog.com >>>> <http://barryowensblog.com/> <http://barryowensblog.com/>* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Amanda Bucklow via OSList >>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>');>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I had never heard of BarCamp. I was smiling too as I read Martinâs >>>> response. If anyone mentions it to me, I will just roll my eyes :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Amanda >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Amanda Bucklow >>>> >>>> Independent Commercial Mediator >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 23 Aug 2016, at 20:51, Eva P Svensson via OSList >>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>');>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Martin, >>>> >>>> I smile when I read your text - I can almost feel your irritation >>>> over comparing OST with Barcamp :-) >>>> >>>> Thank you all who had answered - I now think that I will not ever >>>> say that itâs like OST, but that they had borrowed a few thing but >>>> got them backwardsâŠ(oops) >>>> >>>> :o) >>>> >>>> Eva >>>> >>>> >>>> BĂ€sta hĂ€lsningar >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Eva P Svensson >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *EPS Human Invest AB* >>>> >>>> */Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc/* >>>> >>>> */Medlem i Beyond Performance Group/* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> /"Verksamhetsutveckling genom mĂ€nniskor skapar lĂ„ngsiktigt vĂ€lmĂ„ende >>>> företag och organisationer"/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> AnĂ„sbergsvĂ€gen 22, 439 34 ONSALA >>>> >>>> Besöksadress; Norra AllĂ©gatan 8, Göteborg >>>> >>>> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50 >>>> >>>> www.epshumaninvest.se >>>> <http://www.epshumaninvest.se/> <http://www.epshumaninvest.se/> >>>> >>>> Skype: eva.p.svensson >>>> >>>> Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB >>>> >>>> twitter:@EvaPSvensson >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> */"Jag kan inte lĂ€ra dig nĂ„got. Allt jag kan göra Ă€r att stĂ€lla >>>> frĂ„gor till dig, och lĂ„ta dig sjĂ€lv finna svaren." Sokrates/* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 23 aug. 2016 kl. 11:42 skrev Martin Roell via OSList >>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>');>>: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Eva P Svensson via OSList wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear friends, >>>> Today I heard a woman talking about setting up a meeting using >>>> BarCamp as a method. I asked her to explain to me what it was >>>> and when she did that I had a hard time finding the differences >>>> between that and Open Space. One thing was that, as she >>>> explained it, the time slots were 45 minutes then 15 minutes >>>> pause then new 45 minutes and so on. Otherwise it seemed more or >>>> less like copy and paste from Open Space. Anyone who knows more >>>> about it? >>>> :o) >>>> >>>> >>>> I have attended a good number of Barcamps and OST meetings, and I >>>> believe I even vented my frustration about BarCamps on this list >>>> before. :) >>>> >>>> To make a long story short, a few points of how BarCamps are >>>> different. >>>> (This may be just my limited sample of Barcamps held in Germany >>>> in the >>>> last 4 years.) >>>> >>>> * No circle at the beginning >>>> * A ritual "say your name and your three #tags" instead before >>>> things >>>> start (stopping the flow, boring the hell out of everyone, etc >>>> etc) >>>> * When announcing a session, one asks for a raise of hands to >>>> gauge >>>> interest. >>>> * The "Facilitator" then allocates you a room ("thank you for >>>> announcing >>>> your session so cutely. Here's a room for you.") >>>> * and sometimes STICKS THE PAPER INTO THE SCHEDULE FOR YOU (you >>>> don't >>>> get to choose the room for yourself: they do it for you!) >>>> * Facilitators generally make looong remarks about BARCAMP >>>> before things >>>> start and ask for a raise of hands, how many people have attended >>>> BARCAMPS before, and how many (more is better) >>>> * Facilitators inform people that BARCAMP is AMAAAAZING because: >>>> YOU GET >>>> TO PARTICPATE! WOW!!1 They make the event more amazing by >>>> talking about >>>> how amazing it will be (preventing anyone from getting to work). >>>> * Much of the butterfly conversation is about BARCAMP and how >>>> AMAZING it is. >>>> * There is usually no issue, but a "theme" for the event; what >>>> gets >>>> posted are not "issues" but "sessions". (In the Barcamps I >>>> attended, not >>>> a single session was posted that had a question mark in it.) >>>> * "Sessions" are often teaching, delivered by extroverts >>>> >>>> One a more serious note: >>>> Barcamp differs from OST culturally, in the sense that it is >>>> often used >>>> for what I'd call "participatory teaching / knowledge sharing >>>> events": >>>> In Germany, they seem to become popular with companies now, as a >>>> way to >>>> save education budgets ("our staff can now share knowledge with >>>> eachother! Using BARCAMP!! ITS CHEAPER THAN SEMINARS!!!!"), >>>> whereas OST >>>> functions... hm, better? more naturally? - as a problem solving... >>>> thing. Or so. >>>> >>>> Or, very simply and more personal: Everytime I hear someone say >>>> something along "Barcamp is not so different from Open Space, is >>>> it?" I >>>> get quite mad, because I have often seen amazing things happen >>>> in Open >>>> Space events, and never seen anything amazing happen in BarCamps. >>>> >>>> YMMV. >>>> >>>> Martin >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Martin Röll, Görlitzer Str. 25, 01099 Dresden, Germany >>>> +49 178 4984743 <tel:%2B49%20178%204984743>, @martinroell, >>>> http://www.roell.net >>>> <http://www.roell.net/> <http://www.roell.net/> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org>');> >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>> oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org>');> >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org>');> >>>> To unsubscribe send an email >>>> to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org>');> >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org>');> >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org>');> >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> -- >>> Michael M Pannwitz >>> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany >>> ++49 - 30-772 8000 >>> >>> >>> >>> Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 414 resident Open >>> Space Workers in 68 countries working in a total of 144 countries >>> worldwide: www.openspaceworldmap.org <http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > -- > Michael M Pannwitz > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany > ++49 - 30-772 8000 > > > > Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 414 resident Open Space > Workers in 68 countries working in a total of 144 countries worldwide: > www.openspaceworldmap.org _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org