Ah some poetry…… :)
Open space….yesterday - today and tomorrow...... What is it ? what is it ? to go to the center and then leave it open to sit at the rim enjoying - the space - the place - the now what touches my heart ? so deep and free to let myself and others so spaciously free to be ? Toke Toke Paludan Moeller, CEO & Process host InterChange Aps Stengaardsvej 5 A, 8600 Silkeborg, Denmark Vat Number: 1350 6035 Toke - Mobile +45 2616 6919 - Monica - Mobile +45 2072 1019 Skype name: tokemoeller www.interchange.dk <http://www.interchange.dk/> intercha...@interchange.dk <mailto:intercha...@interchange.dk> http://interchange.dk/calender/ <http://interchange.dk/calender/> > On 24. aug. 2016, at 17.15, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > How would it do in our poetry contest? > > mmp > > > > On 24.08.2016 16:54, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote: >> Who says the Brits don’t have a sense of humor? “Self-Organizing in a >> pure form is like a beautiful >> >> soft hand moving in the morning sun. OST is a light and fragrant hand >> cream. Bar Camp is an arctic glove.” – Or is this poetry? >> >> >> >> ho >> >> >> >> >> >> Winter Address >> >> 7808 River Falls Dr. >> >> Potomac, MD 20854 >> >> 301-365-2093 >> >> >> >> Summer Address >> >> 189 Beaucauire Ave >> >> Camden, ME 04843 >> >> 207 763-3261 >> >> >> >> Websites >> >> www.openspaceworld.com >> >> www.ho-image.com >> >> >> >> *From:*OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf >> Of *paul levy via OSList >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 7:43 AM >> *To:* Barry Owen; World wide Open Space Technology email list >> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] What's the difference between BarCamp and OST? >> >> >> >> Dear all >> >> >> >> Bar Camp, along with many similar processes, is an attempt to open >> space. Compared to OST it contains more intervention (facilitation and >> control) and that "one more thing to do" can limit space opening because >> space tends to open more effectively for emergent self-organisation when >> we do one thing less - minimal intervention. >> >> >> >> OST tends towards minimum intervention (especially when we stop fussing >> over where the pens go and stop adding little bits of dogmatic >> facilitation to it). >> >> >> >> Everything ultimately is self-organisation, but it depends on which self >> or selves are doing the organising. >> >> >> >> Self-Organizing in a pure form is like a beautiful >> >> soft hand moving in the morning sun. OST is a light and fragrant hand >> cream. Bar Camp is an arctic glove. >> >> >> >> Warm wishes >> >> >> >> Paul Levy >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, 24 August 2016, Barry Owen via OSList >> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>> >> wrote: >> >> I could write a veritable book about my experiences with BarCamp here in >> nashville, TN in the past 6 years. >> >> >> >> It's pseudo self organization at best . . . There's a tip of the hat to >> unconference at the beginning as folks arrive and are invited to write >> down "Things they want to Learn" and "things they want to teach". >> >> >> >> The "organizers" then fill the schedule while the participants mingle, >> and the event starts (as aforementioned) with a very brief introduction. >> >> >> >> Most sessions are "teaching" and not open dialog and many are pre-loaded >> speakers who were specifically invited to come with all expenses paid. >> >> >> >> my understanding is that BarCamp was initially designed as a "Technology >> Conference" for computer Geeks, so perhaps it 'works" better with Geeks. >> Using it for other other purposes (Organizational >> Development/transformation etc) is an unintended use of the original format. >> >> >> >> So - I think BarCamp serves the intended purpose well - and I believe >> some misguided folks are attempting to plug a square hole with a round >> peg thinking that it's interchangeable with OST >> >> >> >> My 2 cents >> >> >> >> This ain't Open Space! >> >> >> >> >> *_Barry Owen_* >> */Real Estate Strategist/* >> >> Founder/Principal Broker >> >> *Pareto Realty, LLC *\pə-ˈrā-(ˌ)tō\ >> <http://www.merriam-webster.com/audio.php?file=bixpar02&word=Pareto&text=%5Cp%C9%99-%3CSPAN%20class%3Dunicode%3E%CB%88%3C%2FSPAN%3Er%C4%81-(%3CSPAN%20class%3Dunicode%3E%CB%8C%3C%2FSPAN%3E)t%C5%8D%5C >> >> <http://www.merriam-webster.com/audio.php?file=bixpar02&word=Pareto&text=%5Cp%C9%99-%3CSPAN%20class%3Dunicode%3E%CB%88%3C%2FSPAN%3Er%C4%81-(%3CSPAN%20class%3Dunicode%3E%CB%8C%3C%2FSPAN%3E)t%C5%8D%5C>> >> >> *The Vital Few* >> >> 4012 Hillsboro Pike #5 >> >> Nashville, TN 37215 >> >> Office: 615-502-2080 >> >> Connect: *615-568-2123* >> >> Twitter <http://twitter.com/#!/barryowen <http://twitter.com/#!/barryowen>>, >> Facebook >> <http://www.facebook.com/barryo06 <http://www.facebook.com/barryo06>>, >> Linkedin >> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=15553654&trk=tab_pro >> <http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=15553654&trk=tab_pro>> >> >> WhyJoinParetoRealty.com <http://whyjoinparetorealty.com/> >> <http://whyjoinparetorealty.com/ <http://whyjoinparetorealty.com/>> >> >> ParetoRealty.com <http://paretorealty.com/> <http://paretorealty.com/ >> <http://paretorealty.com/>> >> >> *BarryOwensBlog.com <http://barryowensblog.com/> <http://barryowensblog.com/ >> <http://barryowensblog.com/>>* >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Amanda Bucklow via OSList >> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>');>> wrote: >> >> I had never heard of BarCamp. I was smiling too as I read Martin’s >> response. If anyone mentions it to me, I will just roll my eyes :-) >> >> >> >> Amanda >> >> >> >> Amanda Bucklow >> >> Independent Commercial Mediator >> >> >> >> >> >> On 23 Aug 2016, at 20:51, Eva P Svensson via OSList >> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>');>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Martin, >> >> I smile when I read your text - I can almost feel your irritation >> over comparing OST with Barcamp :-) >> >> Thank you all who had answered - I now think that I will not ever >> say that it’s like OST, but that they had borrowed a few thing but >> got them backwards…(oops) >> >> :o) >> >> Eva >> >> >> Bästa hälsningar >> >> >> >> Eva P Svensson >> >> >> >> *EPS Human Invest AB* >> >> */Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc/* >> >> */Medlem i Beyond Performance Group/* >> >> >> >> /"Verksamhetsutveckling genom människor skapar långsiktigt välmående >> företag och organisationer"/ >> >> >> >> Anåsbergsvägen 22, 439 34 ONSALA >> >> Besöksadress; Norra Allégatan 8, Göteborg >> >> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50 >> >> www.epshumaninvest.se <http://www.epshumaninvest.se/> >> <http://www.epshumaninvest.se/ <http://www.epshumaninvest.se/>> >> >> Skype: eva.p.svensson >> >> Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB >> >> twitter:@EvaPSvensson >> >> >> >> */"Jag kan inte lära dig något. Allt jag kan göra är att ställa >> frågor till dig, och låta dig själv finna svaren." Sokrates/* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 23 aug. 2016 kl. 11:42 skrev Martin Roell via OSList >> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>');>>: >> >> >> >> Eva P Svensson via OSList wrote: >> >> Dear friends, >> Today I heard a woman talking about setting up a meeting using >> BarCamp as a method. I asked her to explain to me what it was >> and when she did that I had a hard time finding the differences >> between that and Open Space. One thing was that, as she >> explained it, the time slots were 45 minutes then 15 minutes >> pause then new 45 minutes and so on. Otherwise it seemed more or >> less like copy and paste from Open Space. Anyone who knows more >> about it? >> :o) >> >> >> I have attended a good number of Barcamps and OST meetings, and I >> believe I even vented my frustration about BarCamps on this list >> before. :) >> >> To make a long story short, a few points of how BarCamps are >> different. >> (This may be just my limited sample of Barcamps held in Germany >> in the >> last 4 years.) >> >> * No circle at the beginning >> * A ritual "say your name and your three #tags" instead before >> things >> start (stopping the flow, boring the hell out of everyone, etc etc) >> * When announcing a session, one asks for a raise of hands to gauge >> interest. >> * The "Facilitator" then allocates you a room ("thank you for >> announcing >> your session so cutely. Here's a room for you.") >> * and sometimes STICKS THE PAPER INTO THE SCHEDULE FOR YOU (you >> don't >> get to choose the room for yourself: they do it for you!) >> * Facilitators generally make looong remarks about BARCAMP >> before things >> start and ask for a raise of hands, how many people have attended >> BARCAMPS before, and how many (more is better) >> * Facilitators inform people that BARCAMP is AMAAAAZING because: >> YOU GET >> TO PARTICPATE! WOW!!1 They make the event more amazing by >> talking about >> how amazing it will be (preventing anyone from getting to work). >> * Much of the butterfly conversation is about BARCAMP and how >> AMAZING it is. >> * There is usually no issue, but a "theme" for the event; what gets >> posted are not "issues" but "sessions". (In the Barcamps I >> attended, not >> a single session was posted that had a question mark in it.) >> * "Sessions" are often teaching, delivered by extroverts >> >> One a more serious note: >> Barcamp differs from OST culturally, in the sense that it is >> often used >> for what I'd call "participatory teaching / knowledge sharing >> events": >> In Germany, they seem to become popular with companies now, as a >> way to >> save education budgets ("our staff can now share knowledge with >> eachother! Using BARCAMP!! ITS CHEAPER THAN SEMINARS!!!!"), >> whereas OST >> functions... hm, better? more naturally? - as a problem solving... >> thing. Or so. >> >> Or, very simply and more personal: Everytime I hear someone say >> something along "Barcamp is not so different from Open Space, is >> it?" I >> get quite mad, because I have often seen amazing things happen >> in Open >> Space events, and never seen anything amazing happen in BarCamps. >> >> YMMV. >> >> Martin >> >> -- >> Martin Röll, Görlitzer Str. 25, 01099 Dresden, Germany >> +49 178 4984743 <tel:%2B49%20178%204984743 >> <tel:%2B49%20178%204984743>>, @martinroell, >> http://www.roell.net <http://www.roell.net/> <http://www.roell.net/ >> <http://www.roell.net/>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org>');> >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org>');> >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org>');> >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org>');> >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org>');> >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org>');> >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> > > -- > Michael M Pannwitz > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany > ++49 - 30-772 8000 > > > > Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 414 resident Open Space > Workers in 68 countries working in a total of 144 countries worldwide: > www.openspaceworldmap.org <http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/> > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
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