On 19-Dec-2008, at 05:57, Chris Gehlker wrote:
On Dec 18, 2008, at 6:00 PM, Roger Howard wrote:Here's my bottom line - Rick Warren is repugnant to at least some minority of Obama supporters, and that had to have been well known -perhaps Obama's calculation is that it's worth more on the upside - inforging some connection there to Warren's movement - but it doesn't change the fact that I, and others, have a real distaste for seeing this guy given this kind of legitimacy with the administrationI just saw a video of Rick Warren going on about how he doesn't use "marriage" to describe the relationship between two men or a man and a child or a brother and a sister ..." and it explains a lot. It is also new information to me and I suspect to many, maybe even to Obama. It's one thing to be a preacher who cannot accept gay marriage or abortion as legitimate but who doesn't make that a major issue in his sermons. It's quite another thing to be someone who gratuitously insults gay people. The MSM has depicted him as the former. The gay people on the video made it plain that their primary objection was not the policy difference but the insults.
Oh, there's no question he's a fuckwit christer fundie who really hates the homosexuals.
I still don't see what the big deal is though. A national stage? Erm.. ok, I suppose that's technically true. High profile? Please, the only reason this has any profile at all is the media frenzy over trying to make a story. The invocation? Who the fuck cares?
My only position on the invocation is the same on all public prayer: it should never be formalized at all in any way. But no one cares hat I think. To me Rick Warren praying is no more or less offensive that <insert any religious figure> praying at a government function.
I don't care. At all. It could be fucking Adolf Hitler up there, it's just as meaningless superstitious nonsense that I will not be paying the slightest attention to, and I find it all equally offensive. And most of the people upset about this, do you think they are strongly religious?
They dislike the man, and that is what they are reacting to.
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