On Sep 1, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Patrick Coskren wrote:
On Sep 1, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Charles Bennett wrote:
On Sep 1, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Jared ''Danger'' Earle wrote:
On 1 Sep 2009, at 20:12, Charles Bennett wrote:
46 Senators are eligible. None participate.
looks like about 100 Reps are eligible. None participate.
None? I read that as most of them get Federal healthcare. Am I
reading
it wrong?
<http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-06-23-congress-benefits_N.htm
The fact is that they intend to EXEMPT themselves from anything they
pass.
Bullshit. They'll have the option to use their employer-provided
insurance (the healthcare they have now), or the public option /
Medicare-for-all. Same as everyone else. Public *option*. There's
no exemption. You're raving.
If they don't exempt themselves from the law, only members on the day
the plan takes effect will qualify.
They already exempt themselves from most laws, including minimum
wage..
This makes no sense. If they were "exempt" from minimum wage, it
would mean they get paid less than the minimum. Minimum wage laws
allow many of us, including me and hopefully you, to make more.
*Minimum* wage just ensures a livable baseline (theoretically) for
everyone, just like the proposed public option.
Sorry I wasn't clear. They can PAY their staff less than minimum
wage. The exempted themselves as EMPLOYERS from the law (and many
others.)
Here is a small list of laws the WE must obey, but that congress has
exempted themselves from obeying
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 -- Protects against discrimination based
on race, color, sex, national origin, religious affiliation.
Americans with Disabilities Act -- Protects against discrimination
based on disability. Has subjected employers to burdensome
architectural renovations and hiring.
Age Discrimination in Employment Act -- Protects against age
discrimination. Does not apply to House. Applies to Senate through
internal rules.
Occupation Safety and Health Act -- Sets minimum health and safety
standards in the workplace.
Fair Labor Standards Act -- Requires employers to pay minimum wage,
time and a half, and overtime. Amendments in 1989 covered House
employees. Senate is exempt.
Rehabilitation Act of 1973 -- Requires federal agencies to submit
affirmative action plans for the disabled to the Equal Employment
Opportunity Commission.
National Labor Relations Act -- Proscribes unfair labor practices,
gives workers right to form unions, requires employers to bargain.
Congress is exempt.
Freedom of Information Act -- Provides public access to government
documents. Congress is exempt, although it does publish floor and
committee proceedings.
Privacy Act -- Protects individual employees at agencies subject to
the act. Congress is exempt.
Surprised?
You might wonder how Congress can justify exempting itself from the
laws the rest of us must obey.
I think they do it by claiming Constitutional justification due to the
separation of powers.
besides their plans they ALSO can choose to use the military
hospitals.
"Lawmakers can also utilize taxpayer-subsidized care at Walter Reed
Army Medical Center in Washington and the National Naval Medical
Center in Bethesda, Md. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-
Ky.,
had bypass surgery at Bethesda in 2003. Rep. Debbie Wasserman
Schultz,
D-Fla., battled cancer last year with treatments received at both
sites."
(that's a freebie for them, BTW)
So.. I guess they are a little more equal than the rest of us.
Uh... can't you use a military hospital if you want to? How does
that make Mitch McConnell more equal than you?
No I can't. I'm not active military and my war related disability
is too minor (thank goodness (10% IIRC) ) to qualify. Nice scar
though. As the years pass my knee predicts the weather quite
accurately
The bone chip in my spine is going to be more of a problem. Good
thing I know a doctor.
In any case, THEY are civilians, unless they retired from the military
or have war related injuries, so most of them shouldn't have access in
any case and sure as hell not for free.
-Patrick
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