On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Charles Bennett wrote:
Bullshit. They'll have the option to use their employer-provided
insurance (the healthcare they have now), or the public option /
Medicare-for-all. Same as everyone else. Public *option*.
There's no exemption. You're raving.
If they don't exempt themselves from the law, only members on the
day the plan takes effect will qualify.
Members of what on which plan qualify for what, now?
They already exempt themselves from most laws, including minimum
wage..
This makes no sense. If they were "exempt" from minimum wage, it
would mean they get paid less than the minimum. Minimum wage laws
allow many of us, including me and hopefully you, to make more.
*Minimum* wage just ensures a livable baseline (theoretically) for
everyone, just like the proposed public option.
Sorry I wasn't clear. They can PAY their staff less than minimum
wage. The exempted themselves as EMPLOYERS from the law (and many
others.)
Apparently I'm in a Googlin' mood today. Fair Labor Standards Act,
section 213, lists the exemptions.
Exemptions:
* Executives, administrators, "professionals", outside salesmen (not
including retail or service establishments)
* Employees of amusement parks, camps, religious or non-profit
conference centers that run 7 months or less per year.
* Fishermen
* Many agricultural employees
* Employees of newspapers with a circulation less than 4000
* Switchboard operators for telephone companies with less than 750
stations
* Seamen on a non-American vessel
* Babysitters and home care workers
* Computer programmers
Then the Secretary of Labor can exempt certain other subcategories as
he considers appropriate, within these broader categories:
* Learners/apprentices, and messengers.
* Students
* Handicapped workers
* Students employed by their schools
And that's all I can find. Can you tell me where Congress is
exempted? Or are you talking about Congressional interns? Because I
guarantee you there are tons of unpaid interns in the private sector,
too.
Uh... can't you use a military hospital if you want to? How does
that make Mitch McConnell more equal than you?
No I can't. I'm not active military and my war related disability
is too minor (thank goodness (10% IIRC) ) to qualify. Nice scar
though. As the years pass my knee predicts the weather quite
accurately
The bone chip in my spine is going to be more of a problem. Good
thing I know a doctor.
Well, you wouldn't want to use that crappy government-provided health
care, anyway.
In any case, THEY are civilians, unless they retired from the
military or have war related injuries, so most of them shouldn't
have access in any case and sure as hell not for free.
Why not? They're at the top of one of the three branches of
government; it's not unreasonable to permit the military to care for
them. I'm pretty sure Supreme Court justices can get treated at
military hospitals, too. Part of the military's job is to protect the
top tier of the government, and there's no reason health care
shouldn't be part of that.
-Patrick
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