i called Midwest PCB

i asked them if this was something they do every day

the first salesperson didn't really know much about SIPAD, the second one did

she said that they did a whole lot more last year than this year

wonder why?
user disillusionment ?
more lead free nonsense ?

i tried to get a ballpark $ figure but no go without data
(BTW, i don't think this is good business practice, i see this a lot.
I understand that for a firm quote the actual data is needed but for a no commitment rough guess surely some number could be tossed out there before we all waste our time, 100 pcs, 4" x 6" 4 layer, 8/8 should really be all the info needed for a rough cost figure )

i did learn that they need to make a stencil just as we would, so i assume that that cost will still need to be paid one way or the other
(where are those plasma re-programmable stencils anyway ?)

all in all they sure didn't push SIPAD very hard
(maybe the licensing fees are a killer)

then i wrote to one of my taiwan PCB suppliers

they never heard of SIPAD, but looked into it
they sent a link i couldn't read (all chinese) that seemed off the mark

then they replied the next day saying that SIPAD was too expensive and HAL was just as good
:)

oh well,
i think my SIPAD research is concluded at least for now

Dennis Saputelli

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Don Ingram wrote:

Has anyone had any contact with SIPAD (or similar) PCB's at all yet. From the proto PCB angle it looks like a great process for small runs, good shelf life too. Midwest PCB in the US pricing doesn't seem too brutal but is a bit too far away. Looking for somewhere in Oz or SE Asia.



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