Hi Don, The stencil is a huge cost, all the protos I do, the paste is placed manually. Not sure many could afford the cost of the stencil for small runs. If you can, then its not that hard to screen the paste on yourself. Also then you only pay for what you use, I like to keep a spare board unloaded, and without paste.
Regards, Darren Moore > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Dennis, > > Thanks for having a look for us all. The response which you > received was > unfortunate. > > It may be that the biggest potential market is also in the > area which doesn't > want to pay high prices, hence the expansion of the service > is blocked. > > Pity, it made a lot of sense. After all you wouldn't pay for > a pcb run & then go > and apply the solder mask layer yourself. I can't see that > the usable solder / > flux pattern should be any different. Particularly when the > process would be > far better implemented in a factory rather than a proto lab. > > Cheers > > Don > > > Saputelli wrote: > > > > i called Midwest PCB > > > > i asked them if this was something they do every day > > > > the first salesperson didn't really know much about SIPAD, > the second > > one did > > > > she said that they did a whole lot more last year than this year > > > > wonder why? > > user disillusionment ? > > more lead free nonsense ? > > > > i tried to get a ballpark $ figure but no go without data > > (BTW, i don't think this is good business practice, i see > this a lot. > > I understand that for a firm quote the actual data is > needed but for a > > no commitment rough guess surely some number could be > tossed out there > > before we all waste our time, 100 pcs, 4" x 6" 4 layer, 8/8 should > > really be all the info needed for a rough cost figure ) > > > > i did learn that they need to make a stencil just as we would, so i > > assume that that cost will still need to be paid one way or > the other > > (where are those plasma re-programmable stencils anyway ?) > > > > all in all they sure didn't push SIPAD very hard > > (maybe the licensing fees are a killer) > > > > then i wrote to one of my taiwan PCB suppliers > > > > they never heard of SIPAD, but looked into it > > they sent a link i couldn't read (all chinese) that seemed > off the mark > > > > then they replied the next day saying that SIPAD was too > expensive and > > HAL was just as good > > :) > > > > oh well, > > i think my SIPAD research is concluded at least for now > > > > Dennis Saputelli > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > _________ > > Integrated Controls, Inc. Tel: 415-647-0480 EXT 107 > > 2851 21st Street Fax: 415-647-3003 > > San Francisco, CA 94110 www.integratedcontrolsinc.com > > > > > > Don Ingram wrote: > > > >> > >> Has anyone had any contact with SIPAD (or similar) PCB's > at all yet. > >> From the proto PCB angle it looks like a great process for small > >> runs, good shelf life too. Midwest PCB in the US pricing > doesn't seem > >> too brutal but is a bit too far away. Looking for > somewhere in Oz or > >> SE Asia. > >> > > > > -- > Cheers > > Don Ingram > > > Leading Edge Design > > Mob: +61 4 1877 5670 > Ph : +61 7 4942 5670 > SIP: 899 060 4942 5670 > > Fax: +61 7 4942 5680 > > 23 Daniel St > North Mackay > QLD 4740 > Australia > > P.O. Box 10326 > Mt Pleasant > QLD 4740 > Australia > ____________________________________________________________ You are subscribed to the OT discussion forum To Post messages: mailto:[email protected] Unsubscribe and Other Options: http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/ot_techservinc.com Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
